Re: [agi] popularizing & injecting sense of urgen

2007-10-31 Thread Jiri Jelinek
> AGI does not need promoting. Considering a) how important AGI is b) how many dev teams seriously work on AGI c) how many investors are willing to spend good money on AGI R&D I believe AGI does need promoting. And it's IMO similar with the immortality research some of the Novamente folks are invo

RE: [agi] Computational formalisms appropriate to adaptive and intelligent systems?

2007-10-31 Thread Benjamin Johnston
> > Thanks for the link. I agree that this work is moving > > in an interesting direction, though I'm afraid that for > > AGI (and adaptive systems in general), TM may be too > > low as a level of description --- the conclusions > > obtained in this kind of work may be correct, but not > > cons

Re: [agi] popularizing & injecting sense of urgen

2007-10-31 Thread Stefan Pernar
Great summary of the issue and open questions. Stefan On Nov 1, 2007 10:34 AM, Matt Mahoney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AGI does not need promoting. AGI could potentially replace all human > labor, > currently valued at US $66 trillion per year worldwide. Google has gone > from > nothing to th

Re: [agi] Computational formalisms appropriate to adaptive and intelligent systems?

2007-10-31 Thread William Pearson
On 30/10/2007, Pei Wang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for the link. I agree that this work is moving in an > interesting direction, though I'm afraid that for AGI (and adaptive > systems in general), TM may be too low as a level of description --- > the conclusions obtained in this kind of wo

Re: [agi] popularizing & injecting sense of urgenc

2007-10-31 Thread Matt Mahoney
AGI does not need promoting. AGI could potentially replace all human labor, currently valued at US $66 trillion per year worldwide. Google has gone from nothing to the fifth biggest company in the U.S. in 10 years by solving just a little bit of of the AI problem better than its competitors. We

Re: [agi] NLP + reasoning?

2007-10-31 Thread Matt Mahoney
--- Linas Vepstas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aside from Novamente and CYC, who else has attempted to staple > NLP to a reasoning engine? Many have tried, such as BASEBALL in 1961 [1] and SHRDLU in 1968-70 [2]. But you might as well try stapling jello. Natural language evolved on a computer far

Re: [agi] NLP + reasoning?

2007-10-31 Thread Mike Tintner
Vladimir: AI that is capable of general learning should be able to also learn language processing, from the letters up. Sounds wonderful. Anyone attempting that or even close? - This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go t

Re: [agi] NLP + reasoning?

2007-10-31 Thread Vladimir Nesov
Linas, I don't believe attaching NLP functionality on top of perception engine can help much. AI that is capable of general learning should be able to also learn language processing, from the letters up. So it's just another capability that should be accounted for. NLP can only help with feeding t

[agi] NLP + reasoning?

2007-10-31 Thread Linas Vepstas
Hi, Aside from Novamente and CYC, who else has attempted to staple NLP to a reasoning engine? I just pasted a good NLP parser I found on the net, onto a home-brew, cut-rate reimplementation of the CYC reasoning engine. I've got simple things working (answers "what is X?" questions, and remember

Re: [agi] popularizing & injecting sense of urgenc

2007-10-31 Thread Jiri Jelinek
>From a promotional perspective these ideas seem quite weak. It was an addition to other complex and relatively near future issues e.g. the longevity and demographic related problems mentioned by Minsky in his "emergency" presentation. What are your suggestions? >AI saving the world .. sounds cra

Re: [agi] popularizing & injecting sense of urgenc

2007-10-31 Thread Bob Mottram
>From a promotional perspective these ideas seem quite weak. To most people AI saving the world or destroying it just sounds crackpot (a cartoon caricature of technology), whereas "helping us to accomplish our goals" is too vague. On 31/10/2007, Jiri Jelinek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Becau