Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-15 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:33:48 -0600 schrieb Aaron Griffin : > Mr Heiko, I know you feel you have a vested interest in this topic, > but you're just adding useless noise to the discussion. This is quite > ironic as this is EXACTLY what you claim will not happen were we to > allow comments on closed

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-15 Thread Aaron Griffin
There is already an arch-general thread about this topic. This one was intended to gauge the opinions of the _developers_ (hence the reason it was on the dev list). I am all for keeping things open, but polluting things with arguments from outside is just making this harder. And now this discussio

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-13 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 13 Mar 2010 16:32:20 -0600 schrieb "David C. Rankin" : > This is currently the state at opensuse and KDE and is a primary > reason for all the new Arch users and all the new users of xfce, > fluxbox and gnome. There also may be some other reasons for all the new Arch users. ;-) > Arch ha

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-13 Thread Linas
Xavier Chantry wrote: The tiny size of the reopen textbox does not give a lot of freedom for justifications either. I think this is completely missing the point though. I don't understand why Dan is the only developer who sees that it sometimes makes sense to provide additional information on clo

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-13 Thread fons
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 04:32:20PM -0600, David C. Rankin wrote: > This is currently the state at opensuse and KDE and is a primary reason for > all > the new Arch users and all the new users of xfce, fluxbox and gnome. > > We are all in this together. One of the things that makes a distro great

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-13 Thread David C. Rankin
On 03/12/2010 06:20 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:39:05 +1000 > schrieb Allan McRae : > >> I really do not see the need. >> >> If a bug is wrongly closed -> request a reopen. >> If you just want to confirm a bug has been fixed, there is no need... >> we already closed the bug re

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-13 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > > I do not see all reopen requests, but the need to "beg" seems overstated... >  I do know that it is much, much easier to get a bug reopened if the request > is clear and well justified.  A large portion of reopen requests provide no > informa

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-13 Thread Allan McRae
On 13/03/10 22:55, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:58:24 +0100 schrieb Pierre Schmitz: Yes, there are sometimes situations where I wanted to add a more or less important comment to a bug reports but it was just closed. In the other hand I see the problems of never ending discussions

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-13 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:58:24 +0100 schrieb Pierre Schmitz : > Yes, there are sometimes situations where I wanted to add a more or > less important comment to a bug reports but it was just closed. > > In the other hand I see the problems of never ending discussions and > flame wars. In other bug

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-12 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:22:35 -0500 schrieb Robert Howard : > What do other distros do on their bugtrackers? We should allow > comments after closing to facilitate further user input. Lets not > forget that Arch Linux would not be in it's current state without > user/dev interaction. I used Gentoo

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-12 Thread Robert Howard
What do other distros do on their bugtrackers? We should allow comments after closing to facilitate further user input. Lets not forget that Arch Linux would not be in it's current state without user/dev interaction. On Mar 12, 2010 7:19 PM, "Heiko Baums" wrote: Am Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:39:05 +100

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-12 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Sat, 13 Mar 2010 08:39:05 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae : > I really do not see the need. > > If a bug is wrongly closed -> request a reopen. > If you just want to confirm a bug has been fixed, there is no need... > we already closed the bug report. > If there is a "better" fix, reopen request or

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-12 Thread Aaron Griffin
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > So closing a bug becomes 1) remove yourself from > assignees, 2) remove from notification, 3) close bug. This is what worries me the most. If comments on old bugs are allowed, this will become the norm.

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-12 Thread Allan McRae
On 13/03/10 09:13, Xavier Chantry wrote: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Allan McRae wrote: On 13/03/10 08:35, Aaron Griffin wrote: Does anyone have an opinion on this? In my eyes, I imagine the kind of people who want this feature simply wish to argue about the closing. I've had to deal w

Re: [arch-general] [arch-dev-public] Allow comments on closed bugs?

2010-03-12 Thread Xavier Chantry
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:39 PM, Allan McRae wrote: > On 13/03/10 08:35, Aaron Griffin wrote: >> >> Does anyone have an opinion on this? >> >> In my eyes, I imagine the kind of people who want this feature simply >> wish to argue about the closing. I've had to deal with enough PM >> requests in t