go away
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 6:17 AM, RedShift redsh...@pandora.be wrote:
Allan McRae wrote:
RedShift wrote:
This thread will probably erupt in a massive flamewar, yet I decided to
post my
story anyway. I am talking about the desktop experience in general, not
the
technical details
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:31:06PM +, dennisjperk...@comcast.net wrote:
Well, I guess they try to 'integrate' again, all config in one place,
but again only for their bubble.
Isn't there already an OS with such a terrible, bloated and cryptical
all config in one place database
This thread will probably erupt in a massive flamewar, yet I decided to post my
story anyway. I am talking about the desktop experience in general, not the
technical details behind it. Keep that in mind.
I've been working these past few months with KDE 4.3 and it feels very sluggish
and
So basically, where are we at?
KDE 3.5 is Windows XP
KDE 4.3 is Windows Vista
??? is Windows 7
awesome is Windows 1
--vk
RedShift wrote:
This thread will probably erupt in a massive flamewar, yet I decided
to post my
story anyway. I am talking about the desktop experience in general,
not the
technical details behind it. Keep that in mind.
So you posted in both the forums and here...
Seriously, get a blog.
Allan McRae wrote:
RedShift wrote:
This thread will probably erupt in a massive flamewar, yet I decided
to post my
story anyway. I am talking about the desktop experience in general,
not the
technical details behind it. Keep that in mind.
So you posted in both the forums and here...
On 26 Oct 2009 at 11:57, RedShift wrote:
This thread will probably erupt in a massive flamewar, yet I decided to post
my
story anyway. I am talking about the desktop experience in general, not the
technical details behind it. Keep that in mind.
I've been working these past few months
Jozsef wrote:
I guess you are right about everything. As a desktop Windows is
better than KDE. If desktop is all that is matter for you then you
should go for it :)
By the way Alt+F2 is something I like in KDE4.3.2 for example. What
about you? Is there anything you like in KDE4.3?
I think
2009/10/26 RedShift redsh...@pandora.be
Allan McRae wrote:
So you posted in both the forums and here...
Seriously, get a blog.
Yes I did, because I feel the more technical people roam the mailinglists
and the more casual user the forums. I want to hear all the sides.
I am talking about
2009/10/26 RedShift redsh...@pandora.be:
This thread will probably erupt in a massive flamewar, yet I decided to post
my
story anyway. I am talking about the desktop experience in general, not the
technical details behind it. Keep that in mind.
I've been working these past few months with
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 03:19:06PM +0400, Jozsef wrote:
By the way Alt+F2 is something I like in KDE4.3.2 for example.
I read Ctrl+Alt+F2 for a moment. Sorry.
Hi :)
On Monday 26 October 2009 11:57:59 RedShift wrote:
This thread will probably erupt in a massive flamewar, yet I decided to
post my story anyway. I am talking about the desktop experience in
general, not the technical details behind it. Keep that in mind.
No intention to make this a
Stefan Erik Wilkens wrote:
A general rule in life is that nothing is ever free. Perhaps a bold
remark to use in an open-source mailing list, but cost doesn't have to
be defined by money.
We simply pay for using Linux by coping with slightly lower
performance in some (certainly not all) areas of
I have to admit that I am partly agree with you. MS screwed up with Vista
and all its competitors had a chance to gain part of its market. I speak
about both Linux and MacOS. But none of them used it. So basically situation
is the same as it was before Vista. In fact we are not loosing ground
Rafa Griman wrote:
(note, lots of things cut)
I've been working these past few months with KDE 4.3 and it feels very
sluggish and incomplete. I can't enable the desktop effects because that
makes things even slower. I'm doing this on a fairly decent setup, an AMD
Sempron 2 Ghz with an
On 26 Oct 2009 at 12:46, Rafa Griman wrote:
My guess is that there's something wrongly configured or installed in your
KDE
4 installation. Check this:
- deactivate nepomuk and Akonadi
- delete /tmp/k* /var/tmp/k*
- delete your .kde4 and .kde and .local dirs (you can
What's the way of deactivating nepomuk and Akonadi?
It can be done via system settings advanced tab.
RedShift wrote:
Conclusion
We are losing ground. We are losing it fast. Our competitors recognize
what the
user wants and delivered.
I can't remember fighting for that ground, and I'd be totally happy if
the people who do would just go away.
--
Arvid
Asgaard Technologies
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Am Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:57:59 +0100
schrieb RedShift redsh...@pandora.be:
This thread will probably erupt in a massive flamewar, yet I decided
to post my story anyway. I am talking about the desktop experience in
general, not the technical details behind it. Keep that in mind.
...
So when
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:57:59AM +0100, RedShift wrote:
This thread will probably erupt in a massive flamewar, yet I decided
to post my story anyway. I am talking about the desktop experience
in general, not the technical details behind it. Keep that in mind.
I've been working these past
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:57 AM, RedShift redsh...@pandora.be wrote:
This thread will probably erupt in a massive flamewar, yet I decided to post
my
story anyway. I am talking about the desktop experience in general, not the
technical details behind it. Keep that in mind.
Nice job, you
if the problem is only the grafical interface, gnome can be changed to the
limit. you can make him far better than any win using compiz, some apps for
cairo and others.
2009/10/26 ppk p...@matrix.iitk.ac.in
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:57:59AM +0100, RedShift wrote:
This thread will probably
RedShift wrote:
This thread will probably erupt in a massive flamewar, yet I decided to
post my
story anyway. I am talking about the desktop experience in general, not the
technical details behind it. Keep that in mind.
I've been working these past few months with KDE 4.3 and it feels very
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 12:41:01 +0100
Stefan Erik Wilkens stefanwilk...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/10/26 RedShift redsh...@pandora.be:
This thread will probably erupt in a massive flamewar, yet I
decided to post my
story anyway. I am talking about the desktop experience in general,
not the
On 26 Oct 2009 at 14:55, Lars Tennstedt wrote:
Hi,
I suggest the opposite in the facts of speed. My work's computer runs
with Windows XP and the hardware is faster than mine at home. But
Windows XP often stands still without a reason and takes ages to do
something. KDE 4.3 on my Arch
On Monday 26 October 2009 19:25:09 Lars Tennstedt wrote:
I suggest the opposite in the facts of speed. My work's computer runs
with Windows XP and the hardware is faster than mine at home. But
Windows XP often stands still without a reason and takes ages to do
something. KDE 4.3 on my Arch
hollun...@gmx.at wrote:
The problem is that the Desktop Environments, GNOME and KDE, in their
quest for integrated desktop experience push more and more stuff
that's really only useful to those DEs deeper and deeper into the
system.
If you as a user need or want it or not, you get it.
I
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:33:12 +0100
Arvid Picciani a...@exys.org wrote:
hollun...@gmx.at wrote:
The problem is that the Desktop Environments, GNOME and KDE, in
their quest for integrated desktop experience push more and more
stuff that's really only useful to those DEs deeper and deeper
RedShift schrieb:
This thread will probably erupt in a massive flamewar, yet I decided to
post my
story anyway. I am talking about the desktop experience in general, not the
technical details behind it. Keep that in mind.
I've been working these past few months with KDE 4.3 and it feels very
Shridhar Daithankar wrote:
On Monday 26 October 2009 19:25:09 Lars Tennstedt wrote:
I suggest the opposite in the facts of speed. My work's computer runs
with Windows XP and the hardware is faster than mine at home. But
Windows XP often stands still without a reason and takes ages to do
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:01 AM, hollun...@gmx.at wrote:
Conclusion:
Yeah, great, install xorg for a minimal graphical desktop, what you get
is console-kit, for a minor feature in a monster DE.
When will Desktop people start to see that they are being intrusive?
They live in their own small
On 10/26/2009 06:57 AM, RedShift wrote:
I've been working these past few months with KDE 4.3 and it feels very
sluggish
and incomplete. I can't enable the desktop effects because that makes
things
even slower. I'm doing this on a fairly decent setup, an AMD Sempron 2
Ghz with
an nVidia FX5500.
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:49:01 -0500
Aaron Griffin aaronmgrif...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:01 AM, hollun...@gmx.at wrote:
Am I happy to hear that.
I say this because I'm under the impression that people see only two
kinds of linux uses:
1) The traditional server
2) The
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:40:44AM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:01 AM, hollun...@gmx.at wrote:
[snip]
So please, next time you call something integration, think beyond the
bubble. In our little Linux world with limited developer time we need
real integration,
On 26.10.2009 18:07, Piyush P Kurur wrote:
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:40:44AM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 9:01 AM, hollun...@gmx.at wrote:
[snip]
So please, next time you call something integration, think beyond the
bubble. In our little Linux world
On Monday 26 October 2009 05:57:59 am RedShift wrote:
This thread will probably erupt in a massive flamewar, yet I decided to
post my story anyway. I am talking about the desktop experience in
general, not the technical details behind it. Keep that in mind.
Done, the thread is fair topic
I just had a look at the Windows 7 features and didn't see anything that
suggests the Linux world has lost the UI war. It is probably true that
the eye candy looks more polished on OS X/Vista/7 than on anything the
Linux world has to offer. (In fact, this is what lured me into the Mac
world for
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 06:09:49PM +0100, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote:
On 26.10.2009 18:07, Piyush P Kurur wrote:
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 10:40:44AM -0500, Aaron Griffin wrote:
In this particular case though, you can just disable hotplugging (see
Aaron Griffin wrote:
You read my mind. I was debating adding a little rant here about the
necessity of hal, consolekit, policykit, devicekit,
whatever-the-hellkit to do the stupidest things. It's real
counter-intuitive. And don't even get me started about linux audio -
apparently the core
On 10/26/2009 01:30 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
I think the biggest problem
that kde4 will have to overcome is the stain on kde's reputation caused when a
few major distros pushed kde4 out the door as a New Desktop when it was
barely beta (kde 4.04 was released by SuSE as the desktop for 11.0
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 3:01 PM, hollun...@gmx.at wrote:
[snip]
When will Desktop people start to see that they are being intrusive?
They live in their own small bubble called GNOME or KDE and can't ever
imagine anyone not wanting to use this.
Sorry for this slightly off topic rant, but it
I also had a crysis some time ago about how windows can match linux.
But it's just use windows for 3 months or so, and suddenly I change my
opinion once again :)
2009/10/26 David Rosenstrauch dar...@darose.net:
On 10/26/2009 01:30 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:
I think the biggest problem that
Hi!
In data lunedì 26 ottobre 2009 18:30:25, David C. Rankin ha scritto:
I didn't do windows 7 beta, so I can't comment there, but I have used every
windows since windows 286 (what '88? when I moved from DOS 4.04) and all
were usable.
Well, when I stepped from dos 6.22 to Windows 95 on my
Am Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:58:49 +0100
schrieb hollun...@gmx.at:
Unfortunately, fewer and fewer applications are desktop-agnostic
these days. To install a gtk2 application I am usually asked to
download half of GNOME or at least libgnomeui and gconf. Gconf is my
personal favourite. Xfce
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:39:54 +0100
Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote:
Am Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:58:49 +0100
schrieb hollun...@gmx.at:
Unfortunately, fewer and fewer applications are desktop-agnostic
these days. To install a gtk2 application I am usually asked to
download half of
Well, I guess they try to 'integrate' again, all config in one place,
but again only for their bubble.
Isn't there already an OS with such a terrible, bloated and cryptical
all config in one place database called registry?
And wasn't there a principle in Unix/Linux: Everything is a file.?
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