Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage separation?

2016-01-26 Thread Margaret Vicente
The ceremonial act of the child presentation is being erroneously interpreted. Link 1: Henrique is not a child of Rufino. The priest says he named the child Henrique of incognito parents. The child was presented to him by Emilia de Jesus wife of Rufino who is away. The presenter of the child cou

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage separation?

2016-01-26 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
I don't remember the exact 'meaning' except papa wasn't there!! I took it to mean he was absent at conception!! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Cheri Mello wr

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage separation?

2016-01-26 Thread Cheri Mello
Joao Ventura, the archivist, explained this at our conference in Salt Lake. I hope Rosemarie or another attendee remembers better than I do. "Auzente" or "ausente" is absent. That person was absent when someone came by. (This is where I hope someone else remembers). They were absent from doing the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage separation?

2016-01-26 Thread Mark
Cheri, Please do use these records to let others know that you never know what you are going to find. . Below is two links for Emilia and Rufino's exposto, children Henrique & Jose. What was funny to me is that on these records, Rufino is listed as "auzente" or "ausente". I am roughly translat

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage separation?

2016-01-25 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Well, that's short and to the point! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 12:45 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Yeah, and I have the "adultry" one too, where the priest calls the f

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage separation?

2016-01-25 Thread Cheri Mello
Yeah, and I have the "adultry" one too, where the priest calls the father, a single man, an adulter, and just says the mom was married to so-and-so. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage separation?

2016-01-25 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
Yes, Cheri, do because I've not seen anything exactly like this before either!! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 9:08 AM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Mark, > > Umm, mom, Emilia

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage separation?

2016-01-25 Thread Cheri Mello
Mark, Umm, mom, Emilia, is kinda lonely without Rufino being there. :) Either that, or he left because he realized something was going on. Or maybe he did have to leave and Emilia needed help and it evolved into something else. Who knows, you can only let your imagination run wild because the b

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Marriage separation?

2016-01-25 Thread Margaret Vicente
Mark, It say the child Joao is the natural son of Emilia de Jesus married to Rufino da Camara who was away or may have imigrated more than 2 years ago. It goes on to list the maternal grandparents with the paternal grandparents being "unknown" incognito. On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Mark wro