> However I have not had a popup or indication that a new server version
> is ready since I installed this version. Should I be expecting one or
> do I download it manually?
Do you have updates enabled (Settings/advanced/updates or similar)?
Anything in the server.log file?
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>
> This tells us something a power outage would wreck your settings, has
> it always been like this ?
Sure. Any power outage during a disk write can damage your data. Any data.
That's why you should backup your disk. This is a general rule, not
limited to SC
> Will there be any 8.0 nigthlys with sqlite ? I've reported a lot of
> bugs lately I will not be able to follow up on them when the 7.4
> nigthlys go back to MySQL as most bugs probably concerns SQlite
> interaction with various parts of the system.
Most bugs which were _not_ sqlite/noweb related
> How will that work for beta testers that have had settings migrated
> across to noweb-sqlite?
No prefs should need changing. I'm switching between the two branches all
the time, without any pref colliding. Only the DB will change.
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> the merge from the noweb-sqlite branch.
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> 2. I can't access the WebUI:
>
> [21:34:47.2769] Slim::Web::Template::SkinManager::_fillTemplate (252)
> Error: file error - INCLUDE_PATH exceeds 64 directories
That used to be bug 9544. It has been broken during some of the porting.
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> I installed r27492 yesterday and it worked. Updated today to the
> lastest nightly (r27977) and it doesn't start anymore. "SqueezeCenter is
> starting" appears for a minute or so, the "SQUEEZ~3.EXE" appears in
> task-list - and disappears after a minute.
I'm seeing this too:
http://bugs.slimdevi
There have been quite a few "doesn't start" postings about the latest 7.4
beta recently. But all of them lacked the most basic information about the
failure.
Please, whenever you encounter a failure, check the server.log file. If
you encounter a scanner failure, check the scanner.log too. Th
> The Windows Home Server Console is also slow as molasses.
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> Yesterdays attempt with WHS 7.4.27977 created a server.log entry of:
> main::init (318) Starting Squeezebox Server (v, r27977, Sat Aug 1
> 04:05:35 PDT 2009) perl 5.01
>
> How does that help ??
It tells us there's nothing in there. Otherwise we would have to ask for
that little piece of i
>> But if it doesn't start, trying with --d_startup will send some often
>> useful information to the console.
>
> Is there a corresponding select box for this on the Settings > Advanced
>> Logging page?
No, because it will log stuff which is run _before_ the main logging is
initialized.
Michae
> Same on Fedora 11: mysql 5.1.36 running under the squeezecenter user
> EATS CPU: 85-99%.
I'm seeing the same. Please file a bug. Thanks!
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> ..you ought to find the recent 7.3.4 build history. Unfortunately,
> there are only two days worth of builds there and neither one seems to
> have a WHS msi install file.
We have stopped the 7.3.x WHS builds months ago. They were not worth the
additional build, as they didn't offer any value
> This query runs once a minute or so, and, well it sucks, creating huge
> temporary tables all for what seems like a worthless statistic:
You might be up to something. I've added your comment to the following bug:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13199
Please add any more information
> I just posted a bit of a server log to the bug report. It's actually
> run twice every minute.
Might depend on your computer's performance. Mine wouldn't finish a run in
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> I tried running it within MySQL Query Analyser, and the first time took
> just over 2 seconds, and then subsequent calls were a few milliseconds
> (query execution plan cached).
Heh... I'm running my SC on a 5yrs old Via C3/1GHz :-)
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> Does the Linux RPM version of SC actually -have- a bundled MySQL?
I thought the bundled versions were always using the system's instance.
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> could someone please tell me, when developing 8.0 (with SQlite) starts?
It has long ago. The 7.4 nightlies up until last week were all based on
the SQLite branch which will become 8.0
> I can't use the MySQL-builds
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> However the path is NOT saved
Are you using the web UI or the control panel to set that value? There was
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> However, to get the itunes ratings/playlist etc I was planning to
> point, under the itunes tab to:
>
> \\192.168.0.100\Music\itunes\itunes library.xml
>
> However the path is NOT saved
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> 7.3.2 stable crashed my database every 2nd or 3rd update-scan, no one
> could solve. a rescan takes about 16 to 18 hours, just a matter for the
> weekend
>
> 7.3.4 mysql-nightlies first didn't start SC, then they crashed my
> windows ("can't find user profile" while starting - de-installing 7.3.4
> Beneath is a list:
> "The following applications are using port 9000:"
> But the list is empty.
Hmm... this needs improvement. But what this means is: some application is
listening on port 9000, thus SC can't use it. But we haven't found out
what application it was (thus the empty line after
> UDP -:3483 *:* 2136 [SQUEEZ~3.EXE]
> UDP -:1820 *:* 2136 [SQUEEZ~3.EXE]
>
> Is this any helpful?
Yes. This tells us that your SC is running.
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> The last few times I have updated or installed the 7.4 nightlies, I get
> this message after installing via the add-ins tab:
Working fine here (28124). Did you uninstall before re-installing?
> Maybe it just needs more time to detect if the service is started?
Don't know whether we can configu
> The installation program seemed to uninstall the previous version, it
> asked me if I wanted to delete preferences and log files and I answered
> No.
That's fine so far. As the product name has changed the new product would
not replace the old one, but install side by side, leaving behind a
> I don't know if I had an official 7.3 release or a nightly release
> installed before, could that be the problem ?
No, those paths look fine. Please file a bug and ask QA to check this
upgrade path (don't tell them it's broken, or they'll assign to me
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> These would seem to address the problem:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/956189
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/956188
These sound like this bug:
https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9454
But then it should have been fixed in the installer. Did you ever try to
reinstall SC to fi
> In test.squeezenetwork.com 'My Squeezeboxes' I see an SB2 that hasn't
> been run in several months, but a Transporter that I use daily doesn't
> show up.
I think the DB is a copy we took a while back from the production system.
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>> But then it should have been fixed in the installer. Did you ever try
>> to reinstall SC to fix this?
>
> Me?
Any "you" following this thread :-).
> I do see the same situation as GrahameP above though. The ports in the
> registry in the ReservedPorts entry have blank lines separating them.
>
> But the library I want to get the metadata from is at
> 192.168.0.100
> Should I not be able to point to that library and get the metadata?
You should, but it sounds like no good idea. Why not run everything from
the WHS?
Use \\192.168.0.100\yourmusicshare and make sure that machine allows
> It is much better than the earlier firmware, but isn't the fonts perhaps
> just a bit too big ?
Yeah, this seems a bit of an issue for me too. Together with the icons and
the chatty German language most of the menu items are cut off by to much.
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> My controller doesn't work with this version. Maybe because I switched
> to German?
I set mine up to use German too. No problem so far (except for the most
menus being truncated :-().
> If I reboot or shutdown it it will never recover and
> constantly reboots (once sooner or later) during boo
>> It is much better than the earlier firmware, but isn't the fonts perhaps
>> just a bit too big ?
now https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13425
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> Then I choose GERMAN and was not able to complete the setup - it looped
> again.
Yeah, spoke too soon: after the latest upgrade mine's looping too (in
German).
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> My controller doesn't work with this version. Maybe because I switched
> to German? If I reboot or shutdown it it will never recover and
> constantly reboots (once sooner or later) during bootup. Also if I was
> in suspend after that it will reboot only.
I filed a bug:
https://bugs.slimdevices.c
> BTW, did you get it working again?
As long as I stick with EN it's fine. As soon as I change language it
wouldn't behave correctly.
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> Additionally, I seem to have lost the ability to turn off my
> Squeezeboxes via the Controller. Any thoughts.
These are Controller firmware issues which are being discussed in an other
thread. Many of these should be fixed already (or will be very soon). This
has nothing to do with your usi
> Thanks. How will the fix be implemented? Is it a separate software
> update for the Controller.
The Controller firmware in 7.4 is work in progress. There will be regular
updates in the next days/weeks. Just keep updating :-).
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> I have an issue which has just cropped up on the latest build (28225).
What have you been using before? I've seen this too, but wasn't able to
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> Can't open context menu on currently playing item
> https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13068
>
> To me, these are the two biggest annoyances with the Controller right
> now.
Are you running the very latest code of everything (firmware & SC)? I've
tested this today, and it did work fi
> I updated to 7.4-28228 and tested again. Are you testing bug 13437 with
> a mix in your playlist?
Will try that. Do you see anything in the server.olog file?
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> [20:20:58.6533] Slim:: Display:: Display::curLines (489) Error: bad
> lines function: Can't call method "url" on an undefined value at
> Plugins/MusicInfoSCR/Info.pm line 148.
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> I have stopped receiving pushed 7.4 WHS nightlys. Any reason for that?
Did you disable the update checks in Settings/Advanced/Software Update?
What does server.log say if you enable server.update=debug
(Settings/Advanced/Logging)
> Has anyone been able to get their Controller to accept alte
Are you using any 3rd party plugins? If so - do you see those messages
without them running too?
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> Scanning appears to be broken for me with the last few builds - running
> XP3. Is anyone else seeing this or have any idea what is causing it?
Good catch! I assume you've enabled debugging for prefs?
Should be fixed in r28248
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> Yes to debugging for prefs
Yeah, that code would only be hit if prefs debugging was enabled.
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> Small question though, and yes I know this is not the correct thread
> for it, but still;
If you had asked the forum's search instead of me, it would have told you
that you can enable the headphone out somewhere in the settings menus ;-).
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> Could the dev team please implement a function that lets the user
> adjust the font size on the new controller UI?
> As for now, the font size is far too big.
May I ask you whether your system is set not to use English but some other
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MeSue,
before reverting - could you please try to restart the current version?
There have been so few changes recently I can't imaging what would have
broken this. But we've had repeated reports of machines locking up for
some reason or other. We need to understand what's going wrong when
> Even with Windows Media Connect stopped it keeps barfing. There is
> nothing in the log. Is there some logging I should enable to
> troubleshoot?
Try server.*, probably player.*
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> Additionally, I got the activation email for my "new" account and it
> tells me to finish my registration at:
> http://notnat/user/activation?acode=8707802a
Thanks for the feedback. I've filed a bug:
https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13654
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> [09-08-26 07:51:37.2500]
> Slim::Web::Template::SkinManager::_fillTemplate (253) Error: file error
> - : not found
Could you add some debugging statement there to find out what it's looking
for and where it's called from (logBacktrace())?
> Has something changed be
> Extras should stay, please file a bug if it's missing from SP.
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> I use C:\Users\Public\Music as the Music Folder, where there are two
> links to network drives containing all music.
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Please note that the menu customization code on mysb.com is currently in a
state of flux. Actually - I only started working on it today. Expect it to
be functional by tomorrow (ordering should work, add/delete not).
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> [09-08-26 19:46:15.5686] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1160) Warning:
> [19:46:15.5684]
> path=/media/disk2/squeezecenter/7.4/server/HTML/EN/xmlbrowser.html
> [09-08-26 19:46:15.5700] Slim::Utils::Misc::msg (1160) Warning:
> [19:46:15.5699] skin=Classic
> [09-08-26 19:46:15.5712] Slim::Utils
> I have the same problem. I put the debug logging on and this query seems
> to take forever in MySQL:
>
> SELECT COUNT( * ) FROM tracks me LEFT JOIN tracks_persistent persistent
> ON persistent.url = me.url WHERE ( ( audio = ? AND (
> persistent.lastplayed IS NULL OR persistent.lastplayed < ? ) )
> [19:46:15.5711] Backtrace:
> frame 0: Slim::Web::Template::SkinManager::_fillTemplate
> (/media/disk2/squeezecenter/7.4/server/Slim/Web/Template/NoWeb.pm line
> 68)
> frame 1: Slim::Web::Template::NoWeb::_generateContentFromFile
> (/media/disk2/squeezecenter/7.4/server/Slim/Web/HTTP.pm l
> It reads a template with xml and template code and process it to
> generate a xml file.
I'm sorry I'm of little help here. But why would you want to run your own
instance of Template anyway? If it's for additional filters: you can add
them any time
(http://template-toolkit.org/docs/manual/
> Do you want a server.log from me as well? I noticed Andy has checked in
> a preliminary fix.
Would be good to have logs in case you still see it after Andy's change.
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> 1. Migration
> It messed my menus up. Removed some things that I had put on the Home
> menu, reordered other items.
>
> 2. Installing Apps
> There's so many things that I infrequently use. So the first thing I
> have to do is go through the whole of the App Gallery list selecting
> each o
> The workaround is to delete all pdk folders at start up via a scheduled
> task with the following commends modified for your install.
A much simpler and safer way to do this is to update to 7.3.4.
Your script might try to delete anything from any program. Eg. Office will
write to those folde
Did you assign the account to the player on the first page?
Needs some clarification and better defaults it seems...
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> Error ocured trying to replace the existing file:
> c:\Program
> Files\Squeezebox\server\Bin\MSWin32-x86-multi-thread\cygwin1.dll
>
> Do I just tell it to ignore this?
You can try it. A safer way would be to resart your machine before the
upgrade.
Are you using file formats which require tran
> Are Internet Radio menu items purposely absent now in 7.4? I'm missing
> menu items like RadioIO, More Radio, RadioTime. The Apps are installed
> (I think) as they were all working via MySB prior.
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> neither faad nor socketwrapper use cygwin. However both faad and
> socketwrapper would be in use when transcoding.
yeah, it's sox using cygwin. But that doesn't matter that much: the
underlying issue is that helper apps sometimes aren't closed properly when
SC is shut down. I think Alan was
> It turns out that what gets downloaded is the WHS msi. Is there a way
> to override what gets downloaded by the auto updater?
Install the WHS build. Why wouldn't you want to be able to install SC from
the WHS console, be notified about the availability of an update without
being logged in to
> With Google Chrome (2.0.172.43) I can not use the App-gallery to
> install applications.
Working fine here. How does it fail? Do you see any error message?
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> 2. The pages are set in a fixed width, but it's about 30-40 pixels too
> wide to fit on a 1024 pixel wide display.
That was a deliberate decision based on server stats.
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> i even have to scrool up/down on my 24" wide monitor... ;-)
Maximze your browser window :-).
I must admit - it's too tall for me too. We'll see.
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> Me to on 1920*1080 screen resolution !
Can't you flip it into portrait mode? Oh, hold on... then it's too wide.
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> Ick. I find myself using my netbook increasingly often, and very, very
That's something I've mentioned too. Increased use of smaller screens. I
was surprised that a.) it didn't crash Safari on iPod Touch, and b.) the
animation on there was quite good too. It seems to be using some smart
zo
> There's a Matrix App ??
On Opera only. Won't run on SliMP3.
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> I just updated to the latest nightly(28449), and this still hasn't been
> resolved. Has been happening for at least the last 4 days. Kinda
> annoying, but not critical. Glad we still have the control panel!
As there has been no change to that app I wonder whether there have been
other changes
One more thing: what language are you using? The translations have been
changed (but shouldn't make it crash...).
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> You are going to be able to eventually identify Baby as a Squeezebox
> Radio instead of a Controller, right?
Hmm... this should have been in place for a while now. In fact: my Touches
and Babies show up as such (incl. icon). But if you've never actually
connected to SN since that code was ad
> I switched ISP but 7.4 latest is not accepting changes in the email
> setting for my SN account ? bug ? nr
Did you change it on SN too? Please note that you'll have to do this on
test.sn.com now, and on www.sn.com (or www.mysqueezebox.com) later, when
7.4 is officially released.
> I hit this rare bug again total memory leak and crash while playing.
Isn't bug 11155 your bug report? You might want to keep it up to date.
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Thanks for your reports.
https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13830 - I'm working on it.
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> I'm using 7.4r24249, and I've just realised that I've lost the "More
> Radio" option on the Internet radio menu, which means I can't access
> things like Live 365.
They're now distinct Apps you can enable in the App gallery.
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> Oh, and one more thing: I can't say for sure, but I FEEL like I always
> got this after upgrading the server. Can't remember ever seeing this on
> a system that has been running for a long time as it is.
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> OK on r28459
Thanks for the feedback! (And I stand corrected - there was a code change,
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> What's that weird fuzzy gray horizontal bar that runs through the tabbed
It's obviously a weird fuzzy grey background.
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> Will the grayed out 'Disconnect' button become an active 'Connect'
> button on players that aren't attached to SN?
No. SN can't talk to SC in real time. It would take SC <= 5 minutes to
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> Thumbs down.
You can't argue taste :-)
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> Is there some way I can make the resizing run on my local Squeezebox
> Server instead ?
I don't think so. Please file a bug.
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> duplicates. Is there anyway to find out what is causing this? My gut
> feeling would say MusicIP as it is all that has changed in my setup
> recently?
If you have SC configured to only check mix status, this shouldn't have
any influence. But it's easy to test: disable MIP, rescan. Disable iTun
> The 'Account Settings' and 'Change Password' forms don't use the same
> styling as the rest of the site, where each setting name is in bold
> text.
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> Users\Anwendungsdaten\Squeezebox\Cache\MySQL\#sql_1220_0.MYI' (Errcode:
Most likely McAfee blocking access to that file. Tell it to ignore *.my*
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> Yes McAfee ist installed. But I'm not able to configure anything. I'm
> only able to start scantasks...
You'll probably need to RDP into your WHS to fix this.
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> I disabled MusicIP and rescanned and now it is right so it was MusicIP.
Try setting MIP to only check mixable status, but not import data.
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> I have had a problem, however, adding Erland Issakson's plugins. More
> specifically, I want to add custom browse and multi library. When I add
> his repository, those 2 plugins don't show up. So, what can I do?
Go over to the 3rd party plugin forum and ask Erland. He's very active
around
> The Home menu should really just contain items which you access on
> daily basis and "App Gallery" isn't one of these things.
While this is true, we have to expose it clearly to the user. If it was
hidden somewhere deep in some settings menu, most users probably would
never discover what pos
> Error: Slim::Web::HTTP::protectName() is deprecated - please use
> Slim::Web::HTTP::CSRF->protectName() instead
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> What's it about?
Some 3rd party plugin?
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> I've just tried 7.4 on my OS 10.4.11 system for the first time today. I
> experience the same behaviour as John. When hitting the start button
> Squeezebox Server attempts to start but after a couple of seconds it
> fails.
Confirmed :-( https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14020
It used
> The log mentions .myd files, but I don't think its an antivirus
> problem. I'm using Microsoft Security Essentials, and I've set up rules
> to ignore both .myi and .myd files.
We yet have to find a case where this particular issue wasn't caused by an
AV product or the computer running out of d
> dumb question, but if I am running 'standard' Windows installer version
> on my WHS, what advantages do I get switching to this version?
A WHS console add-on from which you can manage your SC installation.
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> With SC version 28524 I cannot browse by Artist in the WebUI. The
Did this change in this particular build?
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> Yes. Everything was OK in the previous version I used (don't remember
> which one that was; maybe a few days old).
Thanks. Should be fixed in 28539.
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