> We've had this discussion before -- the concept of free-will as you >use
it is just as useless a concept as god. But morality, as I've >argued
above, is quite useful in progressing towards goals.
As a useful fiction to persuade people, certainly (actually persuade
assumes free will, the uttering
On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 11:02:26PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
> From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 07:46:46PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
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> > At some level, yes. But all moralities aren't created equal. Some
> > are clearly better than others, in that some will al
> On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 11:19:43PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
>
> > As a useful fiction to persuade people, certainly (actually persuade
> > assumes free will,
>
> If you say so. Of course, that is a meaningless statement.
>
> > But, "ought" is rather meaningless without free will.
>
> That's okay
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 04:47:12PM -0500, Dan Minette wrote:
> Morality is about "ought." This leads one to conclude that,
> since morality is meaningless without "ought", morality is rather
> meaningless.
No, that does not follow. Rules govern a system. They have meaning in
that system. Free wi
