Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-11 Thread Colm Bracken
Hi All, Thanks everyone for all the excellent advice! I think we are going to try the 14-bit Red Pitatya for this, and just work to the highest frequencies that we can achieve with the ADCs in the Nyquist limit (namely 62 MHz). I might eventually have a go at interleaving the two ADC channels to d

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Tavi B
Hi, Thank you for your reply! I would consider LimeSDR or maybe XTRX, it have a GPS onboard and PCI-ex interface. Best regards, Tavi În mar., 11 feb. 2020 la 08:05, Mugundhan vijayaraghavan < v.vaishnav151...@gmail.com> a scris: > Hello Tavi, > > There are implementations of red pitaya as a

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Mugundhan vijayaraghavan
Hello Tavi, There are implementations of red pitaya as a SDR by Pavel Demin, but the max. bandwidth (that he has implemented) is about 2.5 MHz and also is limited in tuning range. Yes, using SDRs is another option. LimeSDR is a possible candidate which gives tunability and max. instantaneous band

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Tavi B
erlap of the input and output bands >>>>> means simple conversion methods with normal mixers don't work. >>>>> >>>>> Ross >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 1:09 AM Mugundhan vijayaraghavan < >&g

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Mugundhan vijayaraghavan
:09 AM Mugundhan vijayaraghavan < >>>> v.vaishnav151...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi jishnu, >>>>> >>>>> With red pitaya, you have to down convert 20-80 to 0-60 baseband to >>>>> use the band fully. As such, it has a

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Ross Martin
to >>>> use the band fully. As such, it has a cutoff at 65MHz. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Mugundhan >>>> >>>> On Mon, 10 Feb 2020, 13:30 Jishnu Nambissan T, >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Mugundhan, >>>

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Jishnu Nambissan T
ing is a more cost-effective way to implement this, provided red pitaya supports that mode. Jishnu From: "Hariharan Krishnan" To: "casper" Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 4:33:32 PM Subject: Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser Hi Jishnu, Down-conversion i

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Dan Werthimer
13:30 Jishnu Nambissan T, >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Mugundhan, >>>>> >>>>> With red pitaya, can you sample 20-80 MHz without downconversion ? And >>>>> if analog down conversion is required, wouldn't tha

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Mugundhan vijayaraghavan
you sample 20-80 MHz without downconversion ? And >>>> if analog down conversion is required, wouldn't that restrict the usable >>>> dynamic range (unless a high level mixer is used) ? >>>> >>>> Jishnu >>>> >>>> -

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Mugundhan vijayaraghavan
th red pitaya, can you sample 20-80 MHz without downconversion ? And >>> if analog down conversion is required, wouldn't that restrict the usable >>> dynamic range (unless a high level mixer is used) ? >>> >>> Jishnu >>> >>> ---

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Ross Martin
usable >> dynamic range (unless a high level mixer is used) ? >> >> Jishnu >> >> -- >> *From: *"Mugundhan vijayaraghavan" >> *To: *"casper" >> *Sent: *Thursday, February 6, 2020 1:06:09 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Cha

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Hariharan Krishnan
ghavan" > *To: *"casper" > *Sent: *Thursday, February 6, 2020 1:06:09 AM > *Subject: *Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser > > Hi Dan, > > We have done integration times from 20ms upto a second. There are bursts > that last for hours, minutes and a few m

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Mugundhan vijayaraghavan
gt; >> -- >> *From: *"Mugundhan vijayaraghavan" >> *To: *"casper" >> *Sent: *Thursday, February 6, 2020 1:06:09 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser >> >> Hi Dan, >> >> We

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Mugundhan vijayaraghavan
*Sent: *Thursday, February 6, 2020 1:06:09 AM > *Subject: *Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser > > Hi Dan, > > We have done integration times from 20ms upto a second. There are bursts > that last for hours, minutes and a few ms to seconds as well. > > We have not tri

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-10 Thread Jishnu Nambissan T
er" Sent: Thursday, February 6, 2020 1:06:09 AM Subject: Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser Hi Dan, We have done integration times from 20ms upto a second. There are bursts that last for hours, minutes and a few ms to seconds as well. We have not tried AGC on these bursts since we

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-05 Thread Mugundhan vijayaraghavan
Hi Dan, We have done integration times from 20ms upto a second. There are bursts that last for hours, minutes and a few ms to seconds as well. We have not tried AGC on these bursts since we were aiming to study them only. In the 8 bit design, we had 3 bits for background and remaining 5 to accomm

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-05 Thread Dan Werthimer
hi mugundhan, what's the time scale for these bursts? rise and fall times? can you use a AGC circuit (automatic gain control), eg: computer controlled attenuator to turn down the power going into the ADC during the bursts, so you could keep the levels going into the ADC relatively constant? if the

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-05 Thread Mugundhan vijayaraghavan
Hi Dan, Usually quiet sun doesn't show such abrupt changes, but bursts do (easily 40-50dB or more) for bright bursts. We have built 8 bit spectrometers in 40-80Mhz, but have found then when the burst is pretty strong, saturation effects starts kicking in. Thanks, Mugundhan On Wed, 5 Feb 2020,

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-05 Thread Dan Werthimer
hi colm, regarding dynamic range - for your solar spectrometer, do you need 14 bits of ADC dynamic range? it's very unusual in radio astronomy to need that much instantaneous dynamic range on the input. does the sun vary on short time scales in the radio band by fac

Re: [casper] Solar Spectrometer Channeliser

2020-02-05 Thread Adam Isaacson
Dear Colm, I think you may find the bandwidth is the issue in this case. The Red Pitaya (10 bit and 14 bit) seems to only have an input 50MHz (3dB) bandwidth, so you would only get 10-50MHz bandwidth (total bandwidth of 40MHz). There is also a 16 bit version, but I suspect it has a similar bandwid