I have had an interest in the 4004 for a number of years. I've acquired a
SIM4-01 that I've used over the years to read and program 1702A EPROMs. I've
recently also located a copy of Tom Pittman's resident 4004 assembler. Quite
remarkable when you realize that that it was a complete two pass
On 2021-11-16 5:08 p.m., jim stephens via cctalk wrote:
On 11/16/2021 2:20 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 11/16/21 2:08 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
Did the 4004 chip start our interest in microcomputing?
no
I got interested in microprogramming before it was hijacked as a
On 2021-11-16 4:41 p.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Yes, there were prior machines, but the 4004 is ARGUABLY the first
successful commercial mass-produced one.
There were others, from TI, Fairchild, Four-Phase?, etc.
As usual, the label "FIRST" is questionable due to whether we count
On 11/16/2021 2:20 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
On 11/16/21 2:08 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
Did the 4004 chip start our interest in microcomputing?
no
I got interested in microprogramming before it was hijacked as a a term
for such devices. It's generous at best to
On 2021-11-16 4:18 p.m., Will Cooke via cctalk wrote:
On 11/16/2021 4:35 PM Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
As for microprocessors, there are MANY MANY micros that preceded the PC.
Pretty sure "PC" meant "Politically Correct."
Will
I believe in free speech, not "Politically Correct".
The
On 2021-11-16 3:33 p.m., William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
Best, most concise answer of the week.
--
Will
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 5:20 PM Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
On 11/16/21 2:08 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
Did the 4004 chip start our interest in microcomputing?
no
For
On Tue, 16 Nov 2021, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove via cctalk wrote:
Hmm now that I'm reminded that a large proportion of Commodore's
"stuff" was IEEE 488 or a serialized version thereof.
Was that called "IEC"?
I kind of want to see now if an IBV11 and Commodore 1541 can be abused
into
On Tue, 16 Nov 2021, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
Did the 4004 chip start our interest in microcomputing?
For ME, hearing about the 4004 was the first solid assurance that tabletop
computers would become available. I heard some mentions of it from cow-
orkers at Goddard Space Flight
The two contenders on tside leading g to the gold caphis question are white and
Gold 4004. And. The white and gold with leads showing through in the white
material i
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On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 3:11 PM, ED SHARPE via cctalk
wrote: And agin people
> On 11/16/2021 4:35 PM Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:
>
>
> As for microprocessors, there are MANY MANY micros that preceded the PC.
>
Pretty sure "PC" meant "Politically Correct."
Will
On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 at 16:27, Ethan Dicks via cctalk
wrote:
> Fun card. Thanks for starting this thread. I have one too (came with
> my MINC-11) and I have experience with IEEE-488 from my many hours
> spent with Commodore PETs.
>
Hmm now that I'm reminded that a large proportion of Commodore's
On 2021-11-16 1:25 p.m., Glen Slick via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:23 AM Douglas Taylor via cctalk
wrote:
I'm going by the 'Instrument Bus Subroutines Programmer's Reference
Manual' that is on bitsavers. [/pdf/dec/pdp11/minc] In section 4, page
4-1 it seems to imply that there
As for microprocessors, there are MANY MANY micros that preceded the PC.
You can find a list here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microprocessor_chronology
The 8088 is a late comer to the microprocessor world.
On 11/16/2021 4:08 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
Did the 4004 chip
Best, most concise answer of the week.
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Will
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 5:20 PM Al Kossow via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On 11/16/21 2:08 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
> > Did the 4004 chip start our interest in microcomputing?
>
> no
>
>
On Nov 16, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Did the 4004 chip start our interest in microcomputing? It is 50 today.
> Classic computing begins earlier but for the masses, if they could be
> called that in the early seventies, this was it. I hesitate in calling it
> the
On 11/16/21 2:08 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote:
Did the 4004 chip start our interest in microcomputing?
no
And agin people ask. (Us included!)... which processor is the true first...
the all white and gold... or... the white and gold with leads showing thru...
Intel pictures the leads show labeing through in publicity stuff it does
look better in a photo... some Collectors say the white
Did the 4004 chip start our interest in microcomputing? It is 50 today.
Classic computing begins earlier but for the masses, if they could be
called that in the early seventies, this was it. I hesitate in calling it
the first microprocessor as pc'ers will object.
Happy computing all.
Murray
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 11:01 AM Douglas Taylor via cctalk
wrote:
> In my pile of DEC computer stuff I have a DEC qbus IBV11 IEEE-488
> controller board (M7954) with cable (BN11-A) that connects to the GPIB bus.
Fun card. Thanks for starting this thread. I have one too (came with
my MINC-11)
Excellent, now I don't have to dig into that particular project tomorrow :P
Thanks,
Jonathan
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On Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 at 13:25, Glen Slick via cctalk
wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:23 AM Douglas Taylor via cctalk
>
> cctalk@classiccmp.org wrote:
>
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:23 AM Douglas Taylor via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I'm going by the 'Instrument Bus Subroutines Programmer's Reference
> Manual' that is on bitsavers. [/pdf/dec/pdp11/minc] In section 4, page
> 4-1 it seems to imply that there are 6 files:
>
> IBLIB.OBJ
> IBSVER.FOR
> IBMNC.SYS
The WSJ had an article on it, but oddly, they left out the 8080/8085 from the
timeline discussion.
On 11/16/21, 12:30 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Zane Healy via cctalk"
wrote:
It looks like the Intel 4004 turned 50 yesterday.
Zane
The Wall St. Journal had a good essay about that, by Andy Kessler. This link
should get you there:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-chip-that-changed-the-world-microprocessor-computing-transistor-breakthrough-intel-11636903999?st=nm37ik74mq9vp51=desktopwebshare_permalink
It looks like the Intel 4004 turned 50 yesterday.
Zane
I'm going by the 'Instrument Bus Subroutines Programmer's Reference
Manual' that is on bitsavers. [/pdf/dec/pdp11/minc] In section 4, page
4-1 it seems to imply that there are 6 files:
IBLIB.OBJ
IBSVER.FOR
IBMNC.SYS
IBNMNC.SYS
IBXMNC.SYS
IBXNMC.SYS
I think that's it. *.OBJ is a library to
> In my pile of DEC computer stuff I have a DEC qbus IBV11 IEEE-488
> controller board (M7954) with cable (BN11-A) that connects to the GPIB bus.
>
> It would be interesting to try this out, but I don't have the DEC
> 'Instrument Bus Subroutines' that work under RT-11. Does anyone have
> this
I should have them in my MINC-23 stuff. If you can figure out which
distribution diskette they're on, I can make you an image or copy.
Thanks,
Jonathan
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On Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 at 11:01, Douglas Taylor via cctalk
wrote:
> In my pile of DEC computer
In my pile of DEC computer stuff I have a DEC qbus IBV11 IEEE-488
controller board (M7954) with cable (BN11-A) that connects to the GPIB bus.
It would be interesting to try this out, but I don't have the DEC
'Instrument Bus Subroutines' that work under RT-11. Does anyone have
this package?
Hi all
Trying to get rid of some boxes of ephemera, including this one:
https://imgur.com/a/dm1vR
Note that the software media is not included.
Location: Toronto Canada
--Toby
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