Re: "Bounce buffer" copyright [was Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?]

2015-12-01 Thread John Robertson
On 12/01/2015 7:52 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-12-01 16:49, John Robertson wrote: On 11/28/2015 3:41 PM, Mouse wrote: Love that term, "bounce buffer" (I wrote a whole package to support them in a packet switch I did) - I'm officially adopting it, right now! :-) Hey - anything that anyo

Re: "Bounce buffer" copyright [was Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?]

2015-12-01 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-12-01 16:49, John Robertson wrote: On 11/28/2015 3:41 PM, Mouse wrote: Love that term, "bounce buffer" (I wrote a whole package to support them in a packet switch I did) - I'm officially adopting it, right now! :-) Hey - anything that anyone writes is automatically copyrighted. I reali

Re: "Bounce buffer" copyright [was Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?]

2015-12-01 Thread John Robertson
On 11/28/2015 3:41 PM, Mouse wrote: Love that term, "bounce buffer" (I wrote a whole package to support them in a packet switch I did) - I'm officially adopting it, right now! :-) Hey - anything that anyone writes is automatically copyrighted. I realize you...may have been less than entirely se

Re: "Bounce buffer" copyright [was Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?]

2015-11-30 Thread dwight
unday, November 29, 2015 1:56 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: "Bounce buffer" copyright [was Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?] There were a few systems (such as CP/M) that optimized (or attempted to) interleave depending on use. So, "b

Re: "Bounce buffer" copyright [was Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?]

2015-11-29 Thread Chuck Guzis
There were a few systems (such as CP/M) that optimized (or attempted to) interleave depending on use. So, "boot" tracks were 1:1, "directory" may have been 2:1 and user data 3:1. Schemes varied widely. One or two even interleaved side-to-side in addition to "skewing track-to-track. Obviousl

Re: "Bounce buffer" copyright [was Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?]

2015-11-29 Thread Charles Anthony
On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > it physically laid out the 10 sectors as 0 2 3 4 6 8 1 3 5 7 9 so that >>> when reading sequentially, you had half a disk rotation to get your act >>> together to read the next sector. This turned out to be only a small >>> performance win, and

Re: "Bounce buffer" copyright [was Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?]

2015-11-29 Thread Fred Cisin
it physically laid out the 10 sectors as 0 2 3 4 6 8 1 3 5 7 9 so that when reading sequentially, you had half a disk rotation to get your act together to read the next sector. This turned out to be only a small performance win, and was a pita for interoperability, On Sun, 29 Nov 2015, Tapley,

Re: "Bounce buffer" copyright [was Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?]

2015-11-29 Thread Tapley, Mark
On Nov 29, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > A similar thing was implemented on the old DEC Rainbow 100 (though > I'm sure others). To give the software a chance to do some minor things > while processing, it physically laid out the 10 sectors as 0 2 3 4 6 8 1 3 5 > 7 9 > so that when read

Re: "Bounce buffer" copyright [was Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?]

2015-11-29 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 29, 2015, at 1:13 PM, Warner Losh wrote: > > ... > A similar thing was implemented on the old DEC Rainbow 100 (though > I'm sure others). To give the software a chance to do some minor things > while processing, it physically laid out the 10 sectors as 0 2 3 4 6 8 1 3 > 5 7 9 > so that

Re: "Bounce buffer" copyright [was Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?]

2015-11-29 Thread Warner Losh
On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Jerome H. Fine wrote: > >Mouse wrote: > > Love that term, "bounce buffer" (I wrote a whole package to support them in a packet switch I did) - I'm officially adopting it, right now! :-) Hey - anything that anyone writes is automatically copyrig

Re: "Bounce buffer" copyright [was Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?]

2015-11-28 Thread Jerome H. Fine
>Mouse wrote: Love that term, "bounce buffer" (I wrote a whole package to support them in a packet switch I did) - I'm officially adopting it, right now! :-) Hey - anything that anyone writes is automatically copyrighted. I realize you...may have been less than entirely serious. But what yo

"Bounce buffer" copyright [was Re: flash (or ide) storage for unibus 11?]

2015-11-28 Thread Mouse
>> Love that term, "bounce buffer" (I wrote a whole package to support >> them in a packet switch I did) - I'm officially adopting it, right >> now! :-) > Hey - anything that anyone writes is automatically copyrighted. I realize you...may have been less than entirely serious. But what you wrote