Re: [cellml-discussion] Biological and other non-model citations in CellML metadata?

2007-03-29 Thread Nicolas Le Novere
Sorry to step-in as well :-) We've been playing with annotations for a while. As you know, SBML Level 2 Version 1 annotation scheme was CellML metadata, and we derived the current RDF scheme from it. The initial reason to get away from CellML metadata was precisely the PubMed issue. Many models ar

Re: [cellml-discussion] Biological and other non-model citations in CellML metadata?

2007-03-29 Thread Nicolas Le Novere
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Matt wrote: > We have been working on > trying to integrate explicitly with biopax (http://www.biopax.org/ > states and generics proposal - level 2 was too limiting) in the hope > that other databases (like GO, reactome, KEGG, DIP, signalling > gateway, etc) get dragged along

Re: [cellml-discussion] Biological and other non-model citations in CellML metadata?

2007-03-29 Thread Matt
By all means, step in as much as possible. Can you explain in more detail or point to explanations of bqmodel:isDescribedBy? Specifically: - what is its intended meaning? - when more than one of these is defined on a resource, how is this interpreted? For example: is there some precedence implied

Re: [cellml-discussion] Biological and other non-model citations in CellML metadata?

2007-03-29 Thread Matt
On 3/29/07, Nicolas Le Novere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Matt wrote: > > > We have been working on > > trying to integrate explicitly with biopax (http://www.biopax.org/ > > states and generics proposal - level 2 was too limiting) in the hope > > that other databases (like G

Re: [cellml-discussion] Biological and other non-model citations in CellML metadata?

2007-03-29 Thread Nicolas Le Novere
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Matt wrote: >> BioPAX annotatation scheme is very fragile and in practise almost >> unusable. > > How is that? Because the annotation is free-form. I can use UniProt, uniprot, Uni-Prot etc. > That was always going to wash out in practice. I'm not sure a rule for > generatin

Re: [cellml-discussion] Biological and other non-model citations in CellML metadata?

2007-03-29 Thread Nicolas Le Novere
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Matt wrote: > Can you explain in more detail or point to explanations of > bqmodel:isDescribedBy? You can find some explanations at: http://www.ebi.ac.uk/compneur-srv/miriam-main/mdb?section=qualifiers Note tha qualifiers are optional to be MIRIAM-compliant. I personaly th

Re: [cellml-discussion] Biological and other non-model citations in CellML metadata?

2007-03-29 Thread Matt
On 3/29/07, Nicolas Le Novere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Matt wrote: > > > Can you explain in more detail or point to explanations of > > bqmodel:isDescribedBy? > > You can find some explanations at: > > http://www.ebi.ac.uk/compneur-srv/miriam-main/mdb?section=qualifiers

Re: [cellml-discussion] Biological and other non-model citations in CellML metadata?

2007-03-29 Thread Nicolas Le Novere
> So there is no simple way to determine if this is a reference to a > journal article except through interpreting the URI? Exactly. But this interpretation is unambiguous, so this is not a problem. This does not require more work than parsing an XML element , with the exception that you do not

Re: [cellml-discussion] Biological and other non-model citations in CellML metadata?

2007-03-29 Thread Matt
On 3/30/07, Nicolas Le Novere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > So there is no simple way to determine if this is a reference to a > > journal article except through interpreting the URI? > > Exactly. But this interpretation is unambiguous, so this is not a problem. > This does not require more wor