Re: [CentOS] Mailman 2.1.16 RPMs?

2014-06-12 Thread Devin Reade
--On Wednesday, April 30, 2014 07:52:56 AM -0400 Robert Heller wrote: > Before I go through the hassle of building it myself I want to know if > someone else has built RPMS for Mailman 2.1.16. Following up on this, has anyone got a documented procedure, .spec files, or whatever for running 2.1.

Re: [CentOS] yum install to a portable location

2014-06-12 Thread Robert Stuart
Hi Dan, Chroot gets you a space that "looks" like it is a separate system. Given this is R, I assume you are probably wanting this for HPC like purposes... Could I suggest building your own version of R and installing into a nfs area? You may also wish to investigate the facilities provided by

Re: [CentOS] issue_discards in lvm.conf

2014-06-12 Thread Devin Reade
--On Thursday, June 12, 2014 10:35:26 AM -0400 "James B. Byrne" wrote: > I have a question about SSD respecting security. [...] > I have come to the rather > unsettling conclusion that it is effectively impossible to 'sanitize' > these things short of complete and utter physical destruction, pr

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread m . roth
Paul Heinlein wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jun 2014, Jeremy Hoel wrote: > >> This little bit here is awesome and made me laugh. Thanks! > > Agreed. Warren wins the Internet today. > >> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Warren Young wrote: >>> >>> [*] The absolute XFS filesystem size limit is about 8 millio

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread Jeremy Hoel
Oh yeah.. He does great work. I'm looking forward to his book that comes out. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:27 PM, Warren Young wrote: > On 6/12/2014 12:54, Paul Heinlein wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Jun 2014, Jeremy Hoel wrote: > > > >> This little bit here is awesome and made me laugh. Thanks! > > > >

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread Warren Young
On 6/12/2014 12:54, Paul Heinlein wrote: > On Thu, 12 Jun 2014, Jeremy Hoel wrote: > >> This little bit here is awesome and made me laugh. Thanks! > > Agreed. Warren wins the Internet today. Thank you, thank you. Now go read some "What if?" to see how a true master plays this game. [*] https:/

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Thu, 12 Jun 2014, Jeremy Hoel wrote: > This little bit here is awesome and made me laugh. Thanks! Agreed. Warren wins the Internet today. > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Warren Young wrote: > >> >> [*] The absolute XFS filesystem size limit is about 8 million >> terabytes, which require

Re: [CentOS] issue_discards in lvm.conf

2014-06-12 Thread m . roth
James B. Byrne wrote: > On Thu Jun 12 17:21:43 UTC 2014, John R Pierce pierce at hogranch.com > wrote: > >> On 6/12/2014 10:12 AM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >>> We use two methods: for the drives that are totally dead, or*sigh* the >>> SCSI drives, they get deGaussed. For SATA that's still runnin

Re: [CentOS] issue_discards in lvm.conf

2014-06-12 Thread James B. Byrne
On Thu Jun 12 17:21:43 UTC 2014, John R Pierce pierce at hogranch.com wrote: > On 6/12/2014 10:12 AM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >> We use two methods: for the drives that are totally dead, or*sigh* the >> SCSI drives, they get deGaussed. For SATA that's still running, we use >> DBAN.*Great* s

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Warren Young wrote: > > > [*] The absolute XFS filesystem size limit is about 8 million terabytes, > Isn't there some ratio of RAM to filesystem size (or maybe number of files or inodes) that you need to make it through an fsck? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes..

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread Jeremy Hoel
This little bit here is awesome and made me laugh. Thanks! On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Warren Young wrote: > > [*] The absolute XFS filesystem size limit is about 8 million terabytes, > which requires about 500 cubic meters of the densest HDDs available > today. You'd need 13 standard s

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > >>> Does XFS have any advantages over ext4 for normal users, eg with laptops? >>> I've only seen it touted for machines with enormous disks, 200TB plus. > >> It is generally better at handling a lot of files - faster >> creation/deletion whe

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread Warren Young
On 6/11/2014 07:11, Timothy Murphy wrote: > > Does XFS have any advantages over ext4 for normal users, eg with laptops? If you graph machine size -- in whatever dimension you like -- vs number deployed, I think you'd find all laptops over on the left side of the CentOS deployment curve. I'd exp

Re: [CentOS] issue_discards in lvm.conf

2014-06-12 Thread John R Pierce
On 6/12/2014 10:12 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > We use two methods: for the drives that are totally dead, or*sigh* the > SCSI drives, they get deGaussed. For SATA that's still running, we use > DBAN.*Great* software. From what I've read, one pass would probably be > good enough, given how data's

Re: [CentOS] issue_discards in lvm.conf

2014-06-12 Thread m . roth
SilverTip257 wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:35 AM, James B. Byrne > wrote: >> On Wed, June 11, 2014 18:31, Frank Cox wrote: >> I have a question about SSD respecting security. Recently I have been >> investigating sanitizing these devices, together with 'smart-phones, >> tablets and pads wh

Re: [CentOS] issue_discards in lvm.conf

2014-06-12 Thread John R Pierce
On 6/12/2014 9:38 AM, SilverTip257 wrote: > A former employer of mine contracts out destruction of conventional hard > drives with a machine that has a hydraulic arm and a wedge. Effectively > bending the platters and some of the drive. Hardware destruction (prior to > recycling/disposal) in cert

Re: [CentOS] issue_discards in lvm.conf

2014-06-12 Thread SilverTip257
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:35 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: > > On Wed, June 11, 2014 18:31, Frank Cox wrote: > > I decided that the next time I reformatted my main desktop computer > (this one) > > I would have a ssd installed in it to use for the boot drive. Now that > Centos > > 7 is on the horiz

Re: [CentOS] Google chrome vs network settings proxy?

2014-06-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Billy Crook wrote: > Makes me wonder what happens if a site uses spdy:// > I'd expect that to be the case for chrome talking to gmail. But it is supposed to run over https://. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com _

Re: [CentOS] Google chrome vs network settings proxy?

2014-06-12 Thread Billy Crook
Makes me wonder what happens if a site uses spdy:// On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Gé Weijers wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Les Mikesell > > wrote: > > > >> However, I can start a chrome connection to gmail and it just

Re: [CentOS] Google chrome vs network settings proxy?

2014-06-12 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Gé Weijers wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Les Mikesell > wrote: > >> However, I can start a chrome connection to gmail and it just goes >> direct (which happens to work, I just prefer the proxy which will use >> a different outbound route). If I go

Re: [CentOS] issue_discards in lvm.conf

2014-06-12 Thread James B. Byrne
On Wed, June 11, 2014 18:31, Frank Cox wrote: > I decided that the next time I reformatted my main desktop computer (this one) > I would have a ssd installed in it to use for the boot drive. Now that Centos > 7 is on the horizon, I'm thinking that the time is approaching when I'll want > to do th

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Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

2014-06-12 Thread Timothy Murphy
Les Mikesell wrote: >> Does XFS have any advantages over ext4 for normal users, eg with laptops? >> I've only seen it touted for machines with enormous disks, 200TB plus. > It is generally better at handling a lot of files - faster > creation/deletion when there are a large number in the same dir