Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series & lat/lon coordinates

2013-06-11 Thread Hedley, Mark
n [ca...@unidata.ucar.edu] Sent: 11 June 2013 17:01 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series & lat/lon coordinates Hi Mark and Jonathan: I will say straight up that I dont understand the implications of this particular discussion. But in case i

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series & lat/lon coordinates

2013-06-11 Thread John Caron
Hi Mark and Jonathan: I will say straight up that I dont understand the implications of this particular discussion. But in case its helpful, I have found it important to separate the data model and the encoding of the model in the netCDF file. Probably you are both already doing that, but I wa

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series & lat/lon coordinates

2013-06-07 Thread Hedley, Mark
Hello Jonathan > As a result of this discussion, it seems me that for a DSG (which is > indicated by the presence of featureType), scalar coordinate variables have > to be interpreted as auxiliary coordinate variables of an omitted size-one > instance dimension. That is what is implied by secti

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series & lat/lon coordinates

2013-06-05 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear John > If we use the time series featureType as example > > (from > http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/documents/cf-conventions/1.6/cf-conventions.html#idp8307552) > > AFAIU, the orthogonal multidimensional representation would be: > > float humidity(station,time) > > not > > float humidity(lat, l

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series & lat/lon coordinates | RE: scalar coordinates

2013-06-05 Thread Hedley, Mark
Hello The discussion on CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series & lat/lon coordinates provides us with further example of the use of scalar coordinates and their potential interpretation. I would like to use this to investigate the question of scalar interpretation. The conversation on this iss

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series & lat/lon coordinates

2013-06-04 Thread John Caron
tureType provides, though. > > Best wishes > > Jonathan > > > - Forwarded message from John Caron - > >> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:54:45 -0600 >> From: John Caron >> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 >>

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series & lat/lon coordinates

2013-06-04 Thread Jonathan Gregory
-0600 > From: John Caron > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 > Thunderbird/17.0.6 > To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series & lat/lon > coordinates > > Hi Jonathan: &g

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series & lat/lon coordinates

2013-06-04 Thread John Caron
Hi Jonathan: On 6/4/2013 4:17 AM, Jonathan Gregory wrote: Dear John Caron and John Maurer I agree with John C that the problem arises when the coordinate variables are not size one. John M's example float lon(lon) ; float lat(lat) ; float alt(alt) ; float temp(time

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series & lat/lon coordinates

2013-06-04 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear John Caron and John Maurer I agree with John C that the problem arises when the coordinate variables are not size one. John M's example > > float lon(lon) ; > > float lat(lat) ; > > float alt(alt) ; > > float temp(time, alt, lat, lon) ; > > temp:standard_nam

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series & lat/lon coordinates

2013-05-29 Thread John Caron
Hi John: 1) The coordinates attribute is not new to DSG, it has been around since the beginning of CF. This defines the "auxiliary coordinate variables", that is, coordinate variables that do not follow "lat(lat)" template. I think it would be good if Grads et al could be upgraded to use them.

[CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series & lat/lon coordinates

2013-05-29 Thread John Maurer
Hi all, We ran into a glitch after converting one of our buoys to the new CF-1.6 discrete sampling geometries (DSG) format, and I'm looking for advice. This dataset uses the single time series format, like the one provided in the template of the CF document in Example H.4: http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/