Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-05-01 Thread andrew walsh
ethod for simplicity, noting that the 'Vector' method is also acceptable. Attached for reference is the netCDF file and CDL (.txt) of the same. Convention attribute has been updated to 'CF-1.6' Andrew - Original Message - From: "John Caron" To: Sent

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-05-01 Thread andrew walsh
du Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 4:51 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi. If someone chooses the scalar approach, isn't it necessary to declare the coordinates via the coordinates attribute on the measurement variables? Grace and

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-05-01 Thread Jim Biard
Hi. If someone chooses the scalar approach, isn't it necessary to declare the coordinates via the coordinates attribute on the measurement variables? Grace and peace, Jim Jim Biard Research Scholar Cooperative Institute for Climate and Satellites Remote Sensing and Applications Division Nation

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-05-01 Thread John Caron
On 4/30/2012 8:40 PM, andrew walsh wrote: Hi John and CF-Metadata list, Based on your earlier advice I decided using the Scalar way to represent the coordinate lat, long and time rather than Vector way i.e lat(lat0, lon(lon), time(time) mainly for reason of simplicity. the correct other choi

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-05-01 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Andrew > ERROR (4): Axis attribute is not allowed for auxillary coordinate variables. > I don't get this error with the Vector approach. It looks like the > checker thinks > my scalar lat, lon, time are 'auxilliary coordinate variables' and > axis attributes > are not allowed on these. Is the

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-30 Thread andrew walsh
-1.6 yet, only works up to 1.5. The 'Conventions' attribute will be CF-1.6 in the final file.) - Original Message - From: "John Caron" To: "andrew walsh" Cc: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conve

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-30 Thread John Caron
to:cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi Andrew: You can use a dimension=1 instead of a scalar. OK, you mean if one used the vector method. yes But you cant use lat(lat) lon(lon)

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-30 Thread Jim Biard
; - Original Message - From: "John Caron" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 2:39 AM >> Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 >> >> >>> Hi Andrew: >>> >>> You can use a dim

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-30 Thread John Caron
On 4/29/2012 5:33 PM, andrew walsh wrote: Hi John, My responses inline below. Andrew - Original Message - From: "John Caron" To: Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi Andrew: You can use a d

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-29 Thread andrew walsh
Hi John, My responses inline below. Andrew - Original Message - From: "John Caron" To: Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi Andrew: You can use a dimension=1 instead of a scalar. OK, you m

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-27 Thread John Caron
quot;John Caron" To: "andrew walsh" Cc: ; "Luke Callcut" ; Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi andrew: The file you sent (20110818T001140Z_M_HI504BEN.nc) appears to be a single profile.

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-26 Thread andrew walsh
s, Andrew - Original Message - From: "John Caron" To: "andrew walsh" Cc: ; "Luke Callcut" ; Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi andrew: The file you sent (20110818T001140Z_M

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-25 Thread John Caron
ew walsh" Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 ok On 4/4/2012 6:42 PM, andrew walsh wrote: Hi John, Thank for your offer to check a sample netCDF CTD data file. At moment we don't have some real .nc file but wh

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-18 Thread andrew walsh
AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 ok On 4/4/2012 6:42 PM, andrew walsh wrote: Hi John, Thank for your offer to check a sample netCDF CTD data file. At moment we don't have some real .nc file but when we do I can send you a file for checking

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-04 Thread andrew walsh
55 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi all: Lets see, I havent followed the entire conversation, but: 1) Andrew if you can send me a sample file (not just the CDL) I can check if it works in the CDM with the new 1.6 conventions, and maybe give you some a

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-04 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Andrew Thanks for your email. > 1) What distinguishes an 'auxilliary coordinate variable' from a plain old > 'coordinate variable'? A plain old coordinate variable is as defined by the Unidata netCDF user's guide. It is 1D, monotonic, and its name is the same as the name of its dimension. A

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread andrew walsh
, Glider and XBT instruments. Regards, Andrew - Original Message - From: Upendra Dadi To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi, I think Jim is talking about NCML (virtual

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread andrew walsh
PS: To clarify, the netCDF CTD data we produce will have monotonic pressures. The raw data we get in may go up/down due the motion of the CTD instrument. - Original Message - From: "Jonathan Gregory" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata]

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread andrew walsh
: "Thierry Carval" To: "'Lowry, Roy K.'" Cc: "'Luke Callcut'" ; ; "'Upendra Dadi'" ; ; ; "'andrew walsh'" Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:31 AM Subject: TR: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conven

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread John Caron
dra Dadi <mailto:upendra.d...@noaa.gov> ; andrew walsh <mailto:awa...@metoc.gov.au> *Cc:* Luke Callcut <mailto:l...@metoc.gov.au> ; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu <mailto:cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu> ; sdn2-t...@seadatanet.org <mailto:sdn2-t..

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread Upendra Dadi
atanet.org <mailto:sdn2-t...@seadatanet.org> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:31 AM *Subject:* RE: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi Upendra, I like the idea of a station dimension. It goes a long way to resolving the

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread Jim Biard
w walsh > *Cc:* Luke Callcut ; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu ; > sdn2-t...@seadatanet.org > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:31 AM > *Subject:* RE: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 > > Hi Upendra, > > I like the idea of a station dimension. It goes

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread Karl Taylor
Dear all, I second Jonathan's suggestion to treat lon, lat, and time as scalars pointed to by the coordinates attribute, and to only keep "pressure" as a true coordinate. It seems neater to me. In CMIP5, we've required all size-1 dimensions of this kind be treated in this way. Karl On 4/3

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Andrew and Nan > If your pressure isn't monotonic, and so can't be a coordinate > variable, I don't know > whether it's preferable to demote ALL the coordinates to auxiliary > coordinate variable > status, > TEMPERATURE: coordinates = "TIME,PRESSURE,LATITUDE,LONGITUDE" ; I don't think there'

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread Nan Galbraith
r, millibar, decibar, atmosphere (atm), pascal (Pa), and hPa. ... ..."ΒΆ Regards, Andrew - Original Message - From: Lowry, Roy K. To: andrew walsh Cc: Jim Biard ; Upendra Dadi ; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu ; Luke Callcut ; g...@metoc.gov.au ; sdn2-t...@seadatanet.org Sent: Tuesd

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
To: andrew walsh Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; sdn2-t...@seadatanet.org; g...@metoc.gov.au; Luke Callcut; Upendra Dadi Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi again, The reason that I prefer depth to pressure as the dimension for CTD is that the information re

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-02 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
, Roy K. Cc: Jim Biard; Upendra Dadi; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; Luke Callcut; g...@metoc.gov.au; sdn2-t...@seadatanet.org Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi Roy/All, Agree totally it would be good to get this CTD netCDF done in an interoperable way. Rega

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-02 Thread andrew walsh
: andrew walsh Cc: Jim Biard ; Upendra Dadi ; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu ; Luke Callcut ; g...@metoc.gov.au ; sdn2-t...@seadatanet.org Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:16 PM Subject: RE: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi Andrew, SeaDataNet will very soon be considering

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-02 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi Andrew, Either way it should be okay as far as CF compliance is concerned. But the dimensions - latitude, longitude and time are not really required. If it is required to indicate that there is only one station(profile) in the file, there could be a dimension for number of stations instead, w

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-02 Thread Jim Biard
Hi. Here's my best understanding (which could be flawed, so I look forward to finding out if I have missed something). Assuming that your time, latitude, and longitude are all proper coordinate variables (no fill values), either choice for the shape of your salinity variable works. If you use th

[CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-01 Thread andrew walsh
Hi CF list, We are working on coding up some 1000's netCDF files off CTD instruments and want to make usre we are following the latest netCDF conventions (v1.6) OK. As background the CTD records a profile pressure, temperature and salinity. Here is a summarised CDL version (not all attributes+va