Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-06 Thread Denny Valliant
On 8/4/06, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 03 August 2006 14:26, Ken Ferguson wrote: > > that's 120K/yr. You just double the hourly and add a K. > > Woa. That makes it a bit easier. > :remembers Yup, that's going right up there with the 9's timetables up to 10 finger tric

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-04 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 03 August 2006 14:26, Ken Ferguson wrote: > that's 120K/yr. You just double the hourly and add a K. Woa. That makes it a bit easier. :remembers -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-03 Thread Ken Ferguson
get the full 40 or because of vacation... you trim the weeks by 2 down to 50.. -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 7:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey On Thursday 03 August 2006 13:07, Matt Wi

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-03 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 03 August 2006 13:07, Matt Williams wrote: > Salary Average by year > Hourly Averages (overall and by year) It would be cute to give people who only gave one an value for the other, based on a standard 5x7.5 hour week. -- Tom Chiverton **

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-03 Thread Matt Williams
The following creeping features have been added to the Survey Results page over the past day or so: Salary Average by year Hourly Averages (overall and by year) Salary and Hourly Highest and Lowest -- Matt Williams "It's the question that drives us."

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-02 Thread Snake
Yay, that's what I do too, work at home. Great innit But then I'm one of the company directors so that helps :-) - Snake -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 August 2006 15:11 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-02 Thread James Holmes
Well, for example, my position does focus solely on CF web app development (and I use most of the things in that list) and I am right at the bottom of the salaries that are posted in the survey. There again, how many people have a permanent position (not contracting) where they can work at home ess

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-02 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 02 August 2006 13:55, Ben Nadel wrote: > that not be reflected? Thing about how much you need to know to be a highly > effective ColdFusion programmer and web developer: > ColdFusion, ColdSpring, Reactor, Flex 2.0, Web Services, AJAX, SPRY, MVC, > Model-Glue (and Unity), Java, SQL, Dat

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-02 Thread Ben Nadel
Some people call me the gangster of love." -Original Message- From: Richard Dillman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey I think your right on the money with the Multiple Jobs. I cant think of anyone who co

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-02 Thread Everett, Al \(NIH/NIGMS\) [C]
Bonuses? Who gets bonuses? I'd be happy getting an extra 40 hours PTO. -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey + bonuses you could find you

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-02 Thread Johnny Le
Wow, this is scary. Yah, this is the same Johnny. Are you Tim? I don't recognize the name "Loathe". If you are, how are you doing these days? Sound like you are doing extremely well. Thanks for the compliment, man. Johnny >Johnny I'm not sure if your talking about yourself (one year) but

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-02 Thread Mark Drew
That would be good.. I know how much I am saving... not going out.. not buying beer... etc etc. :) MD On 8/2/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark, Wouldn't you like to see that $0 contrasted with how much money people > have have saved by not buying some other IDE? Or maybe you don

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-02 Thread Matt Williams
Mark, Wouldn't you like to see that $0 contrasted with how much money people have have saved by not buying some other IDE? Or maybe you don't want to know. ;) Tom, I can leave this up for a while. No problem. Johnny, thanks again for the data cleanup note. I took out the two 840,000 entries and c

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-02 Thread Mark Drew
I guess I better not put in my salary for CFEclipse huh? that would throw off the average... "annual pay $0 + Amazon Wish List Bonuses" MD On 8/2/06, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 01 August 2006 18:44, Matt Williams wrote: > > FYI: I just added an average to the bottom of

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-02 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 01 August 2006 18:44, Matt Williams wrote: > FYI: I just added an average to the bottom of the results. What would be great is if you left it up for a month or so, and then posted a summary / graphs. -- Tom Chiverton This email i

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Loathe
> > > > If not, never mind :) > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Johnny Le [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:40 PM > > > To: CF-Talk > > > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > &

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Richard Dillman
for a minute over at the business center). > > If not, never mind :) > > > -Original Message- > > From: Johnny Le [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:40 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Loathe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:40 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > > I think it is safe to say that it is $210,000 since he owns his > own business. Although that would bring the average salary and > the salary of 7

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Johnny Le
Responder 148, 149, and 150 from Sydney Australia seem to be the same person and the salary seems to be $84,000 and not $840,000. Johnny >Come one, come all... >An anonymous salary survey is available at > >http://keysym.org/cfs > >I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it,

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Johnny Le
I think it is safe to say that it is $210,000 since he owns his own business. Although that would bring the average salary and the salary of 7 years of experience up a lot. It looks like independent contractors make more money than full time people. Wonder what the average hourly rate is :-

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Loathe
, 2006 5:04 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > > If you get $100k over there just for being a cfdeveloper then your damn > lucky. > Over here (UK) the top end salary for such a role would be > £40-£45k tops for > a senior cfm

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Matt Williams
Johnny, Thanks for the catch. I added the 000. Not sure what to make of the "210". Should it be 210,000? I suppose it is possible if his/her hourly is $130. Matt On 8/1/06, Johnny Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wonder if you count those who entered like 35 or 60 for their annual > salary in y

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Johnny Le
Wonder if you count those who entered like 35 or 60 for their annual salary in your average or did you patch 000 at the end of those numbers? because those would significantly shift the average. >Come one, come all... >An anonymous salary survey is available at > >http://keysym.org/cfs > >I did

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
o: CF-Talk Sent: Tue Aug 01 22:29:02 2006 Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey Yea, and that's still less than $100k -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2006 22:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Snake
Yea, and that's still less than $100k -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2006 22:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey But 45k British pounds = 84 U.S. dollars according to Google. -Original Me

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Andy Matthews
But 45k British pounds = 84 U.S. dollars according to Google. -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey If you get $100k over there just for being a cfdeveloper then

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Snake
: 01 August 2006 21:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey Hi Andy, to clarify my earlier post, for those on the upper end of the salary scale (US$100k+) on the survey, it may be worth noting on the survey whether or not they function in any other vertical market field of

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Michael E. Carluen
---> > > -Original Message- > From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:37 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > > For those employed in companies (not freelancers), one thin

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Kevin Aebig
ED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey CF developer is my primary role. -Original Message- From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Andy Matthews
CF developer is my primary role. -Original Message- From: Michael E. Carluen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey For those employed in companies (not freelancers), one thing I'm curious

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Michael E. Carluen
rity between the two types. Hmmm. > -Original Message- > From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:04 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > Fixed the IN vs IL issue and fixed the Springfield ent

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Michael E. Carluen
rity between the two types. Hmmm. > -Original Message- > From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:04 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > Fixed the IN vs IL issue and fixed the Springfield

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Alan Rother
Sent: 01 August 2006 18:52 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > and to that end, is it only cfmx7 advanced certs. Actually though, has > anyone ever received a raise based on obtaining a cert? > > > On 8/1/06, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PR

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Matt Williams
rs) > have heard of you, then it really does make a difference. > > Snake > > -Original Message- > From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 01 August 2006 18:52 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > and to t

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Eric Roberts
Big difference...IN is the South in the North ;-) Eric -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 01 August 2006 13:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey Oh, c'mon, is there *really* that much of a difference? He

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Ray Champagne
-Talk > Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey > > is it just for those who hold advanced cf certs? (since that's what the > original poster was looking for) :) > > On 8/1/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Come one, come all... >> An

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Andy Matthews
Feature creep!!! -Original Message- From: Mingo Hagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey Great stuff, could you make a select box to filter the averages on country? Mingo

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Andy Matthews
Ooops...never mind. I saw that you're dropping zeros and blanks already. -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey FYI: I just added an average to the b

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Snake
Snake -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2006 18:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey and to that end, is it only cfmx7 advanced certs. Actually though, has anyone ever received a raise based on obtaining a cert?

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Andy Matthews
You might consider dropping (or not showing) records whose annual salary field is blank. It'll throw off the average. -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary S

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Barney Boisvert
gt; > > andy matthews > > web developer > > certified advanced coldfusion programmer > > ICGLink, Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 615.370.1530 x737 > > --//-----> > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Matt Williams

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
and to that end, is it only cfmx7 advanced certs. Actually though, has anyone ever received a raise based on obtaining a cert? On 8/1/06, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > is it just for those who hold advanced cf certs? (since that's what > the original poster was looking for) :) >

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Mingo Hagen
Great stuff, could you make a select box to filter the averages on country? Mingo. Matt Williams wrote: > Come one, come all... > An anonymous salary survey is available at > > http://keysym.org/cfs > > I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you probably > will. :) > > I'l

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Eric Roberts
It's reporting IL as IN ;-) Eric -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 01 August 2006 11:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey is it just for those who hold advanced cf certs? (since that's what th

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Matt Williams
FYI: I just added an average to the bottom of the results. Direct link for those that have already answered: http://keysym.org/cfs/results.cfm Charlie, that's why I put in the years of experience. Of course we're making the assumption that more years means more advanced which could be debated. Aga

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread PETER SHEATS
sarily from age." -- Leonard Ravenhill -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey is it just for those who hold advanced cf certs? (since that's wha

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Matt Williams
] > > 615.370.1530 x737 > > --//-> > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:36 AM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Unofficial CF Developer Salary S

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Matt Williams
advanced coldfusion programmer > ICGLink, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 615.370.1530 x737 > --//-> > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:36 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject:

RE: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Andy Matthews
Looks like the state is either not being saved, or not being displayed. Just FYI. -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey Come one, come all... An anonymous

Re: Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Charlie Griefer
is it just for those who hold advanced cf certs? (since that's what the original poster was looking for) :) On 8/1/06, Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Come one, come all... > An anonymous salary survey is available at > > http://keysym.org/cfs > > I didn't bother with any validation, s

Unofficial CF Developer Salary Survey

2006-08-01 Thread Matt Williams
Come one, come all... An anonymous salary survey is available at http://keysym.org/cfs I didn't bother with any validation, so if you try to break it, you probably will. :) I'll leave it up for a few days so people will have time and for those in other time zones, etc. Matt On 8/1/06, PETER S