RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]

2002-03-12 Thread s vermill
Brian, In order to avoid getting caught up in the terminology (and risk that someone at your telco is using it improperly), I would state emphatically that you plan to terminate the service with a non-ISDN, relgular ol' CSU. Make certain that they know that and you should be fine. Scott Brian

Re: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]

2002-03-12 Thread MADMAN
D]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:29 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] > > OK this answered my question. If my only choice is a T1 PRI, then I > don't have to worry about things not working. Like my router and > firewall, I was just

RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]

2002-03-12 Thread Ladrach, Daniel E.
You would have to get a different CSU for your router. Daniel Ladrach CCNA, CCNP WorldCom -Original Message- From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] OK this answered my question. If

RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]

2002-03-12 Thread Brian Zeitz
else? Initially its just my site and the ISP. Thanks for your post, these are really helpful. -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] This is not quite right. Yes

RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]

2002-03-12 Thread Brian Zeitz
ubject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] T-1 is the layer 1 standard. ISDN PRI uses T-1 for layer 1 connectivity. Therefore, whenever you say ISDN PRI, you are referring to T-1. However, not all T-1's are ISDN PRI. The "other" T-1 is referred to as CAS, channel associated signaling

RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]

2002-03-12 Thread Tarek Sabry
Nope! T1 CAS can be used for either data or voice. The same for ISDN (PRI) T1. Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] T-1 is the layer 1 standard

Re: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]

2002-03-12 Thread Tshon
rch 12, 2002 2:26 PM >To: Brian Zeitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] > >PRI gives you 23 channels of 64K each.. Which is equivalent to a T1 - >1.5Mb > >For a VPDN, users could dial into a PRI > >HTH > >Suj > >-Original Message- &

RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]

2002-03-12 Thread s vermill
John, You make a good point that channelized T-1s are all but unheard of. However, the term "clear channel" doesn't mean unchannelized. It means that the DS0s are the full 64 kbps, as opposed to the older bit-robbed 56 kbps DS0. Scott John Neiberger wrote: > > This is not quite right. Yes,

Re: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]

2002-03-12 Thread MADMAN
If you plan on terminating only analog calls then channelized T1 is fine and generally cheaper. Want ISDN, get a PRI. Dave Brian Zeitz wrote: > > Is there any drawbacks to getting a T1 PRI vs. a regular T1 (I think > that's called channelized). I am not sure of the drawbacks of using PRI, >

RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]

2002-03-12 Thread s vermill
n people refer to just "T1", they mean T1 CAS. > > Tarek > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of > Brian Zeitz > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:22 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: T1 Vs

RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]

2002-03-12 Thread John Neiberger
This is not quite right. Yes, ISDN PRI is physically a channelized T-1. In this case you have 23 data bearing channels and one signalling channel. For data, you can order a channelized T-1 if you need to. This gives you 24 channels available for data, but they are entirely separate channels.

RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]

2002-03-12 Thread s vermill
I'm afraid that isn't so. You can order channelized and non-channelized T-1s to do whatever you want with. So there is a big difference between an ISDN PRI (and all of the associate ISDN stuff - D channel, etc) and a run-of-the-mill T-1 (and its total lack thereof). Placing a CSU/DSU on the end

RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]

2002-03-12 Thread Tarek Sabry
. Normally when people refer to just "T1", they mean T1 CAS. Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zeitz Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] OK, I am just confuse

RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]

2002-03-12 Thread Chris Charlebois
T-1 is the layer 1 standard. ISDN PRI uses T-1 for layer 1 connectivity. Therefore, whenever you say ISDN PRI, you are referring to T-1. However, not all T-1's are ISDN PRI. The "other" T-1 is referred to as CAS, channel associated signaling and, as far as I know, is only used for voice. It a

RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]

2002-03-12 Thread Brian Zeitz
ECTED] Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] PRI gives you 23 channels of 64K each.. Which is equivalent to a T1 - 1.5Mb For a VPDN, users could dial into a PRI HTH Suj -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Zeitz Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 20

T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]

2002-03-12 Thread Brian Zeitz
Is there any drawbacks to getting a T1 PRI vs. a regular T1 (I think that's called channelized). I am not sure of the drawbacks of using PRI, with VPN, and things like that work fine over PRI? Is PRI just like a regular T1? The reason I am asking is I tried to get a T1 and I was told I could only