Re: OT: TinyURL

2008-06-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 5. Juni 2008 schrieb Stroller: > > On 4 Jun 2008, at 18:12, Joseph Reeves wrote: > > ... > > TinyURL on the other hand... Why would anyone ever use that? I never > > click on links unless I know where they link to. Here's a plan for > > abuse: > > > > 1: Discover browser 0-day exploit > > 2

Re: OT: TinyURL [Was: OT: ajax image galleries]

2008-06-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 5. Juni 2008 schrieb AVee: > On Wednesday 04 June 2008 22:55, Andy Powell wrote: > > > > tinyurl is useful instead of typing in twattishly long urls which many > > sites insist on using. Generally you don;t want to click on a link provided > > by someone you don't know/trust. Not only that

Re: duplicate mail

2008-06-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 4. Juni 2008 schrieb Philippe Guillebert: > Hi list, > > Am I the only one to get some of the e-mails on this list twice ou more > ? looks like the issue is back ... didn't motice it lately. But it's individual issue, seems we won't fix it. I do an occasional CTRL-* on my mail-UA to delet

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-06-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 4. Juni 2008 schrieb Andy Green: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > Yes init 1 sounds like the kind of medicine that matches the problem, > but actually doing telinit 1 when you want to share storage is pretty > harsh. I know it's a bit unfair but imagine if that was how thin

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-06-04 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 4. Juni 2008 schrieb Andy Green: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:53:29AM -0700, Matt Mets wrote: > |> I believe this has been discussed at some point, but there is a > |> file-storage module that emulates a mass storage device: > |> http://www.linu

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-03 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
I'm just working on improving the schematics (like quite some other guys of OM staff), but we at EE are not deciding on key features of future products, we are provided with specs on what to design. Anyway your suggestions and requests will be noticed when posted in this list. cheers jOERG sig

Re: Question about future devices (GTA03,04)

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
I'm not sure about my NDA, but this topic has been around quite some while now. So mickeyl says "it's about evolution, not revolution". GTA03 -the recycled name- (which I'm working on the electric schematics of the device right now) is an improved version of GTA02 (if plans don't change ;), fixi

Re: gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 2. Juni 2008 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: > On Monday 02 June 2008 11:34:07 Bin Chen wrote: > > I am just looking at the code of gsmd2, I doubt whether a condition > > has been processed. Suppose a command is send but during the wait time > > of the response, another unsolicited command s

Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 2. Juni 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: > Am Mo 5. Mai 2008 schrieb steve: > > Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=sita.openmoko.org) > > by sita.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) > > id 1K32Dg-0001Yg-F5; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:04:32 +0200 > &

Re: gsmd correctness question

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 2. Juni 2008 schrieb Bin Chen: > Hi, > > I am just looking at the code of gsmd2, I doubt whether a condition > has been processed. Suppose a command is send but during the wait time > of the response, another unsolicited command sent to the AP and the > name is the same: > > AT+CREG? > >

Re: Our new Main page of wiki

2008-06-02 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 5. Mai 2008 schrieb steve: > Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=sita.openmoko.org) > by sita.openmoko.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) > id 1K32Dg-0001Yg-F5; Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:04:32 +0200 > Received: from smtp115.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com ([69.147.64.88]) > by sita.

Re: Private data protection.

2008-06-01 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am So 1. Juni 2008 schrieb Kim Alvefur: > On Sun, 2008-06-01 at 10:55 +0300, Ilja O. wrote: > > Also portable self-destruction hardware would be nice. > > echo overload > /sys/devices/blaha/battery > LOL :-) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. _

Re: Freerunner test

2008-05-31 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour: > Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA01_gsm_modem#Serving_Cell_Information_.282.2C1.29 > > > > you read this field during a call when actually transmitting audio (NO > > silence)? > >

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-31 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour: > Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > > your link: that's it > > Thanks for sharing your thoughts and giving this link > > If you do choose a 4-pin 3.5mm connector to be compatible with iPhone > (or with another major vendor), please

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-31 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Lally Singh: > On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Ilja O. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Having two memory card slots (one for OS, one easy accessible for > > usage with changeable memory cards) could be nicer than standard > > (current) architecture. You flush o

Re: Headset Amp circuitry (jOERG)

2008-05-31 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Yorick Matthys: > > There used to be a problem with this. AFIK jOERG mentionned it first in the devel list: > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-March/001994.html > > Does anybody know if it has been resolved and/or if the mp3 playback quality c

Re: Freerunner test

2008-05-31 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour: > Kevin Dean wrote: > > > I'd like to reconfirm this before reporting, or at least kill my > > theory before reporting on it and creating a false lead. It seems that > > the SIM itself is important. > > Two likely factors affecting GSM buzz are: which ban

Re: gsmd question

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 31. Mai 2008 schrieb Bin Chen: > On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 3:08 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Bin Chen: > >> I am a mobile phone developer and I am looking at the GSMd application > >> on OpenMoko. Seems all the AT command are sent to UART without waiting > >> the

Re: using the openmoko neo101 in mass storage mode

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
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Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
that's been my idea when I started. But obviously there's a demand for adapter-free 3.5 connectivity. So you probably have to use an adapter for headsets (with mic)[see other post]. No big thing though. Thanks for voting jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
see URL in prev post. there are adapters 3.5male->2.5female /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
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Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Kim Alvefur: > On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 09:16 -0400, Kevin Dean wrote: > > 3.5 mm. I hear mention of "standard" 2.5 mm and other than my 1973 and > > the Freerunner, I don't think I've ever seen a 2.5 mm used. Most wired > > headsets on phones I've purchased in the past eac

Re: gsmd question

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
hey guys, this was an issue 1988. Since then, AT command set is well understood, for Hayes modems and everything that came later on... Sorry it's late at night here, and I might be a little ungraceful... But REALLY *THATS* an issue??? c'mon let me write your specs ;-) maybe I'm totally OT, then

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Rahul Joshi: > The vendor of the touch panel we are using said it might be possible. But it > would be a considerable driver effort. I'd really like to see a pointer to this first hand info. This guy I*d like to invite on a couple a beers and have a chat - always though

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Mike Montour: > Joerg Reisenweber wrote: > > > B) classic 3.5mm headphones "Walkman(R)" connector, where you have to DIY an > > adapter for any standard cellphone headset? (or does anybody know of 3.5mm > > headSET standards or adap

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Shawn: > 1 more vote for 'B'. > > I'm curious, though, why the decision has to be made in such a rush for future editions of the product? > . . .shawn because we're moving forward very fast ;-) You see it took long time for GTA02, we're trying to speed up, and produc

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
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Re: screen protector

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Flemming Richter Mikkelsen: > the cheaper ones. This make me worry that they might not have a > good conductivity, which is nessecary since the Freerunner has a > resistive touch screen. The R-TS is BETWEEN two foils that touch each other when pressing on some point wi

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Rahul Joshi: > And I thought I read somewhere in wiki that the touchscreen would be similar > if not same to the ones having multi-touch sensing "support" (which can be > programmed to support multi-touch at some point of time). With your > statement I can't decide if I'

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Benedikt Schindler: > Sven Klomp schrieb: > > 2.5mm, since I want to pick up a phone call while listening to music. > > > > Sven > > > > > > And that isn't possible with the actual 3.5mm headset on the GTA01 / > 02 ??? It IS possible with the ACTUAL *2.5mm* heads

Re: AW: multi-touch?

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Fabian Off: > Hey! > > How does synaptics handle this? When I look at the output my touchpad does, I can see "X Y Fingers" Values... Maybe we could look into this code and see how they do detect the amount of fingers? Dunno whether they work nearly the same, but I be

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > |> I still think that wired headsets are not used by anyone out there. > Even if > |> every vendor adds a cheap wired headset to it's device I barely see > anyone > |> using it. > |> Today bluetooth headsets are

Re: 2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb niclone: > Joerg Reisenweber a écrit : > > Hi community! > > A short poll: on a future GTA0x (>2), would you prefer to have > > A) "standard" 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a > > cheap adapter if you

Re: kids phone

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Hello, > > I'm contemplating making a kids phone from a Freerunner. > > I'm supposing the software part will be doable: > > - interface with a few large icons > - it should be possible to make a call to the phone and it will answer > automatically

2.5mm or 3.5mm

2008-05-30 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Hi community! A short poll: on a future GTA0x (>2), would you prefer to have A) "standard" 2.5mm headset (mic+phones) connector, where you have to buy a cheap adapter if you want to use your "old" headphones, (the way like it's for GTA01/02) or B) classic 3.5mm headphones "Walkman(R)" connector,

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): > ian douglas wrote: > > I think that knowing a "best case scenario" (where you stay in the same > > location), you get about 6 hours of talk time, is still helpful. Cell > > phone manufacturers typically report a "best case scenario" when >

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Fr 30. Mai 2008 schrieb AVee: > This test might not even be 'best case'. A better test would be having the Neo > really close to the cell tower for optimal conditions. I guess the difference > between testing far away from the cell tower and testing close to the tower > might be pretty big

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb ian douglas: > I think that knowing a "best case scenario" (where you stay in the same > location), you get about 6 hours of talk time, is still helpful. Cell > phone manufacturers typically report a "best case scenario" when > reporting talk time and standby time, wi

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | Lasse Poulsen wrote: > |> Also it would be nice to see how long call time you have if you talk > |> continually (might i suggest an audio-book or to). If you don't i > |> properly will (haven't got the device y

Re: Neo as cellular modem?

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Michael Shiloh: > > Alexey Feldgendler wrote: > > On Thu, 29 May 2008 08:59:10 +0200, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> We're helpless unless Atheros decided to implement Master mode in their > >> closed firmware. Unfortunately the power advantages of hav

Re: multi-touch?

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Bastian Muck: > I have a little idea. Imagine, you put your finger somewhere on the > right side of the screen. The "average" point is also somewhere at the > right side. When you put another finger e.g. at the left side the > "average" point jumps somewhere to the middl

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Hi Joerg, > as it seems that my mail did not reach the community list (I am not a subscriber, just monitoring the archives) may I ask you directly the question regarding "multi tutch" :-) . See below: > > > Hi all, > if the geometric average poin

Re: Neo as cellular modem?

2008-05-29 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > |> Please someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the WiFi chip in > |> fact _can_ do AP mode, but that mode is not allowed in the open source > |> driver. > | > | its a firmware. the wifi module has it

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Carsten Haitzler: > it's possible we can do this - in svn there is even a full qwerty kbd layout i > initially used - with ctrl, alt, etc. for terminal junkies, BUT for now > correction is always-on. U made my day. :-) Just wondering how long it takes til there's a how

Re: USB power direction in host mode (was: Re: 3G USB Dongle (was Re: Neo as cellular modem?))

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Michael Shiloh: > > Andy Green wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: > > |> Joerg > > |> >

Re: Neo as cellular modem?

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
hmmm you really have a talent to ask interesting questions dunno... yet /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/c

Re: 3G USB Dongle (was Re: Neo as cellular modem?)

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: > |> Joerg > |> > |> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | wrote: > |>> Am Mi 28. Mai

Re: My experience with the Freerunner

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
you are not supposed to correct each single keystroke - just like on T9. Simply type ahead and *in the end* select from list the word you tried to type, probably that's nearest to _all_ of your physical keystrokes PLUS some recent/most-used-factor. If I got that right, Raster? /j signature.a

Re: early experince Freerunners w/ ASU load, vs. thousnads of Freeruners

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Do 29. Mai 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): > In this Linuxtag report [1] (google translated here [2]) there are not > so good news about production :/ > Can you share with us something more Steve? > > Bye > > [1] http://tinyurl.com/6rs6j2 > [2] http://tinyurl.com/643y64 > > -- > Tre

Re: Meta Toolchain Release (2008 May)

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Andy Green: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | | What we need is to enable to install these into the toolchain somehow, > | | rather than make that a special "do it at the factory" operation > | to get > | | things into toolchain. > | | > | |> Agreed, bu

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb thomasg: > The capacitive touchscreen of the Freerunner only detects a single point and FR has a resistive TS /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list communit

Re: multi-tutch?

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Jan Stöckel: > hey given pro-linux.de (german news site)is right, MPX > http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/mpx/ is now a part of Xorg, and I can > remember that the display of the freerunner was ready for multituch, so > coud it be possible that the freerunner/openmoko is cap

Re: 3G USB Dongle (was Re: Neo as cellular modem?)

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: > Joerg > > On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 2:30 AM, Joerg Reisenweber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: > >> i think it may still be up in the air > > > Nope it's not, see Y-ca

Re: Car Mode Application...

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Staley, Daniel L: > One question I still have though: Is it possible to catch the incoming call > signal from the GSM modem before the dialer app gets it, and handle all the > call stuff in my app? Will I need to rework all of the call taking code? > Or is there an

Re: 3G USB Dongle (was Re: Neo as cellular modem?)

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mi 28. Mai 2008 schrieb Brad Midgley: > i think it may still be up in the air how to run a usb device and keep > the freerunner charging externally. this 3g adapter i'm using draws a > lot of power, so it almost certainly won't work when only powered from > a freerunner's battery. Nope it's not

Re: Car Mode Application...

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 27. Mai 2008 schrieb Staley, Daniel L: > * If someone calls while the program is running, ideally I would like the > program to pause all music etc and say "Incoming call from Fred" and display > 2 large buttons "Ignore" and "Accept." If accept is pressed, I want the > phone to go into s

Re: Available Encryption algorithms

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Di 27. Mai 2008 schrieb David Pottage: > If there is a difference between what the spec sheet for the GSM modem > supports and what the AT command says is supported, then my guess would be > that the GSM modem is also considering what is permitted by the network & > SIM card. Alternatively ther

Re: software load for first mfg run of Freerunner? Is ASU what ships?

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Mo 26. Mai 2008 schrieb Steffen Winkler: > stupid question: but for what stands "ASU"? Abgas Sonder Untersuchung - hey you're no German guy?! ;-) maybe we should find a better name - yea it's hard with all these Spanish and German ambiguities. Let's wait and see what's next... LOL. Siemens

Re: GTA01 battery charge circuit: ID pin?

2008-05-28 Thread Joerg Reisenweber
Am Sa 24. Mai 2008 schrieb Major A: > > Hi, > > I have a GTA01 and want to use it even when I don't carry a computer > with me. I read that the battery charge circuit of the GTA02 will > switch to high current if a 48k resistor is present between the > mini-USB ID pin and ground. Does this also

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