Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Warly
Michael Steil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! [...] 1) Installer CD Boot Code A default.xbe has to be added to the installer CD and the CD has to be in hybrid UDF/ISO9660 format. The Xbox bootloader loads the standard kernel, which has Xbox support compiled in, as well as the standard

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Franois Pons
Michael Steil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 3) Different boot method The Xbox needs the boot CD to be in UDF format (that's easy with mkisofs -udf) and the bootloader called default.xbe in the root directory of the CD. This bootloader has been developed by the Xbox Linux Project and boots Linux

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Michael Steil
On Friday, Oct 11, 2002, at 10:58 Europe/Berlin, François Pons wrote: 3) Different boot method The Xbox needs the boot CD to be in UDF format (that's easy with mkisofs -udf) and the bootloader called default.xbe in the root directory of the CD. This bootloader has been developed by the

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Michael Steil
Booting from HD works like this: If there is no bootable media in the Xbox DVD drive, it starts the file xboxdash.xbe from the fourth partition on the hard disk, which is a FATX filesystem. We could make Mandrake mount this partition as /boot, as it contains the kernel and the initrd;

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Michael Steil
On Friday, Oct 11, 2002, at 12:31 Europe/Berlin, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: I'd like to know if there are real chances that we could boot off an Installation CD or an hard drive containing Linux -without- a modded chip, in the future? 1) If MS cryptographically signs our bootloader. 2) If

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Michael Steil
On Friday, Oct 11, 2002, at 12:29 Europe/Berlin, Warly wrote: How is the boot kernel stored on the Installation CD when booting from SYSLINUX? Our default.xbe bootloader requires the kernel and the initrd to be files in the UDF file system, it would be cool if they didn't have to be

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Warly
Michael Steil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Friday, Oct 11, 2002, at 12:29 Europe/Berlin, Warly wrote: How is the boot kernel stored on the Installation CD when booting from SYSLINUX? Our default.xbe bootloader requires the kernel and the initrd to be files in the UDF file system, it would be

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
1) We're working on a replacement ROM that will completely replace the MS system software, so there cannot be a legal problem any more. 2) Even with MS' hacked system software, I don't see a problem for the end user, because he has bought a legitimate copy of the Xbox system software and

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Stphane Teletcha
Le Vendredi 11 Octobre 2002 18:47, Sitsofe Wheeler a écrit : 1) We're working on a replacement ROM that will completely replace the MS system software, so there cannot be a legal problem any more. 2) Even with MS' hacked system software, I don't see a problem for the end user, because he

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread jaqui
Sitsofe Wheeler wrote: 1) We're working on a replacement ROM that will completely replace the MS system software, so there cannot be a legal problem any more. 2) Even with MS' hacked system software, I don't see a problem for the end user, because he has bought a legitimate copy of the Xbox

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Leon Brooks
On Friday 11 October 2002 04:58 pm, François Pons wrote: We don't have Xbox here so you will have to provide information on how to proceed, maybe Micro$oft will give us a Xbox for that ... Class Pons humour. G'wan, ring them up and ask anyway, I should be able to hear the screams from here in

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Michael Steil
On Friday, Oct 11, 2002, at 10:42 Europe/Berlin, Warly wrote: Adding UDF support does not bring any trouble, but regarding the boot method, does that mean that the Xbox just ignore el torito and syslinux boot option, and that just putting the default.xbe file on the CD root is enought, or do we

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Franois Pons
Leon Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Friday 11 October 2002 04:58 pm, François Pons wrote: We don't have Xbox here so you will have to provide information on how to proceed, maybe Micro$oft will give us a Xbox for that ... Class Pons humour. G'wan, ring them up and ask anyway, I

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Warly
Michael Steil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Friday, Oct 11, 2002, at 10:42 Europe/Berlin, Warly wrote: Adding UDF support does not bring any trouble, but regarding the boot method, does that mean that the Xbox just ignore el torito and syslinux boot option, and that just putting the

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Michael Steil
On Friday, Oct 11, 2002, at 04:46 Europe/Berlin, Levi Ramsey wrote: On Thu Oct 10 17:46 -0700, jaqui wrote: so this would be an option for people with xboxes? to run linux on an off the shelf xbox? You have to use a modchip to allow the XBox to run code that's not signed by MS. does this

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Michael Steil
hmm, could probably hardware patch the cell phone chat keyboard, or better yet, a full sized ps2 keyboard into the xbox as well to add that functionality. ( building and marketing an adapter to convert the keyboard to xbox control interface ) The Xbox has USB connectivity, just with different

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Michael Steil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As you might already know, the Xbox Linux Project succeeded in running a full Mandrake distribution on a modded Xbox console; we just had to use an installer of our own because of some differences in the Xbox architecture. Hi, This is a nice project

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Franois Pons
Michael Steil [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hmm, could probably hardware patch the cell phone chat keyboard, or better yet, a full sized ps2 keyboard into the xbox as well to add that functionality. ( building and marketing an adapter to convert the keyboard to xbox control interface ) The

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-11 Thread Michael Steil
Originally, we had an additional partitioning module in the kernel for Xbox partitioning. Now our code makes it possible to use both partitioning schemes in parallel: The PC partition table is read first, and the Xbox partitions (which may of course overlap) will be added after the PC

[Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-10 Thread Michael Steil
Hi! I am Michael Steil from the Xbox Linux Project. I have had a conversation with Gael and Jacques from Mandrake and I was told that they don't officially support Xbox Linux, but they support it non-officially. Jacques suggested to discuss about this on this mailing list. As you might

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-10 Thread jaqui
Michael Steil wrote: Hi! I am Michael Steil from the Xbox Linux Project. I have had a conversation with Gael and Jacques from Mandrake and I was told that they don't officially support Xbox Linux, but they support it non-officially. Jacques suggested to discuss about this on this

Re: [Cooker] Xbox Linux support for Mandrake

2002-10-10 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Thu Oct 10 17:46 -0700, jaqui wrote: so this would be an option for people with xboxes? to run linux on an off the shelf xbox? You have to use a modchip to allow the XBox to run code that's not signed by MS. does this support the games that are written for the xbox? AFAIK, it does