Re: Salt (was: ICSA certifies weak crypto as secure)

1999-06-15 Thread Bill Frantz
At 8:26 AM -0700 6/4/99, Arnold G. Reinhold wrote: At 9:18 AM +1000 6/2/99, Greg Rose wrote: (IMHO the design decision that would most profitably have changed was the limitation to 8 character passwords, not the salt. I agree with you here, though as Steve Bellovin pointed out, hashing hadn't

Re: Salt (was: ICSA certifies weak crypto as secure)

1999-06-04 Thread Arnold G. Reinhold
At 9:18 AM +1000 6/2/99, Greg Rose wrote: At 16:38 1/06/99 -0400, it was written: [by Arnold Reinhold] ... I would argue that UNIX is an excellent object lesson for John's point. 12 bits was a bad design decision, even in the 70's. I take exception to this last statement. The design (of the

Salt (was: ICSA certifies weak crypto as secure)

1999-06-02 Thread Greg Rose
At 16:38 1/06/99 -0400, it was written: At 11:48 AM -0400 6/1/99, Steven M. Bellovin replied to John Kelsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] message: Why 32 bits? Salts are good, and often cheap, but I'm curious what your rationale is. Traditionally, a salt serves two purposes: to increase the expense (CPU