Re: [!! SPAM] Re: Is AES better than RC4

2006-05-24 Thread Joseph Ashwood
- Original Message - From: "James A. Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: Is AES better than RC4 -- Joseph Ashwood wrote: > RC4 should have been retired a decade ago, Why? It is in general distuingable from random, actually quite quickly. The first few bytes are so

Re: Is AES better than RC4

2006-05-24 Thread James A. Donald
-- Joseph Ashwood wrote: > RC4 should have been retired a decade ago, Why? --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG pvLUSroPw35whI+/0Tq1IYPZh/GDEidGMu+4KvZc 4zyBqLBt4fFho62NSUZuECGjiLrFpqppx7lXuvebv ---

Re: Is AES better than RC4

2006-05-24 Thread James A. Donald
-- James A. Donald >> AES is new, and people keep claiming progress towards >> breaking it, without however, so far producing any >> breaks. >> >> RC4 is old and has numerous known weaknesses, which >> are tricky to code around, and have caught many an >> implementor - notice for example Wifi.

Re: Is AES better than RC4

2006-05-24 Thread Jon Callas
On 23 May 2006, at 3:15 PM, James A. Donald wrote: -- AES is new, and people keep claiming progress towards breaking it, without however, so far producing any breaks. RC4 is old and has numerous known weaknesses, which are tricky to code around, and have caught many an implementor - notice

Re: Is AES better than RC4

2006-05-24 Thread Max
On 5/23/06, James A. Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: AES is new, and people keep claiming progress towards breaking it, without however, so far producing any breaks. RC4 is old and has numerous known weaknesses, which are tricky to code around, and have caught many an implementor - notice for

Re: Secure phones from VectroTel?

2006-05-24 Thread mis
another contender (or could-be contender): http://www.cryptophone.de/products/CPG10/index.html (open source and built by people like rop gonggrijp and barry wels) On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 01:45:15PM -0400, John Ioannidis wrote: > On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:19:38AM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >

Re: Is AES better than RC4

2006-05-24 Thread Joseph Ashwood
RC4 should have been retired a decade ago, that it has not is due solely to the undereducated going with "whatever's fastest." It's time we allowed RC4 to stay dead. Joe - The Cryptography Mailing List Un