Re: Wiretap Act Does Not Cover Message 'in Storage' For Short Period (was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 2/27/03)

2003-03-06 Thread Will Rodger
John says: Next time, before disagreeing with someone: a) Please read what he actually wrote, and b) Don't quote snippets out of context. Three sentences later, at the end of the paragraph that began as quoted above, I explicitly pointed out that cellphone transmissions are a more-protected sp

Re: Wiretap Act Does Not Cover Message 'in Storage' For Short Period(was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 2/27/03)

2003-03-06 Thread John S. Denker
Will Rodger wrote: John says: > Wireless is a horse of a different color. IANAL but > the last time I looked, there was no federal law > against intercepting most wireless signals, but you > were (generally) not allowed to disclose the contents > to anyone else. No longer, if it ever was. It's a

Re: Wiretap Act Does Not Cover Message 'in Storage' For Short Period(was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 2/27/03)

2003-03-06 Thread Will Rodger
John says: Wireless is a horse of a different color. IANAL but the last time I looked, there was no federal law against intercepting most wireless signals, but you were (generally) not allowed to disclose the contents to anyone else. No longer, if it ever was. It's a crime, as evidenced by the wi

Re: Wiretap Act Does Not Cover Message 'in Storage' For Short Period(was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 2/27/03)

2003-03-05 Thread John S. Denker
Steven M. Bellovin wrote: The (U.S.) ban on wiretapping without judicial permission is rooted in a Supreme Court decision, Katz v. United States, 389 U.S. 347 (1967) (http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=case&court=us&vol=389&invol=347) which held that a wiretap is a search whic

Re: Wiretap Act Does Not Cover Message 'in Storage' For Short Period (was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 2/27/03)

2003-03-05 Thread Tim Dierks
At 02:30 PM 3/5/2003 -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: >From: Somebody > >Technically, since their signal speed is slower than light, even >transmission lines act as storage devices. > >Wire tapping is now legal. The crucial difference, from a law enforcement perspective, is how hard it is to get th

Re: Wiretap Act Does Not Cover Message 'in Storage' For Short Period (was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 2/27/03)

2003-03-05 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "R. A. Hettinga" wr ites: > >--- begin forwarded text > > >Status: RO >From: Somebody >To: "R. A. Hettinga" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Wiretap Act Does Not Cover Message 'in Storage' For Short Perio >d (was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 2/27/03) >Date:

Re: Wiretap Act Does Not Cover Message 'in Storage' For Short Period (was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 2/27/03)

2003-03-05 Thread R. A. Hettinga
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Re: Wiretap Act Does Not Cover Message 'in Storage' For Short Period (was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 2/27/03)

2003-03-02 Thread Ronald L. Rivest
Yes, I was amazed at this ruling as well. This ruling seems to fly in the face of the likely intent of Congress when it passed Wiretap Act. If things continue in this direction, we will soon have rulings and regulations that say: -- Carriers must put all calls in storage for a minimum p

Re: Wiretap Act Does Not Cover Message 'in Storage' For Short Period (was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 2/27/03)

2003-03-02 Thread Tim Dierks
At 01:39 PM 2/27/2003 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote: At 9:01 AM -0500 on 2/27/03, BNA Highlights wrote: > WIRETAP ACT DOES NOT COVER MESSAGE 'IN STORAGE' FOR SHORT > PERIOD > BNA's Electronic Commerce & Law Report reports that a > federal court in Massachusetts has ruled that the federal > Wiretap Ac

Wiretap Act Does Not Cover Message 'in Storage' For Short Period (was Re: BNA's Internet Law News (ILN) - 2/27/03)

2003-02-28 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 9:01 AM -0500 on 2/27/03, BNA Highlights wrote: > WIRETAP ACT DOES NOT COVER MESSAGE 'IN STORAGE' FOR SHORT > PERIOD > BNA's Electronic Commerce & Law Report reports that a > federal court in Massachusetts has ruled that the federal > Wiretap Act does not prohibit the improper acquisition of >