Re: Clarification of challenge to Joseph Ashwood:

2002-11-02 Thread Joseph Ashwood
Sorry, I didn't bother reading the first message, and I won't bother reading any of the messages further in this thread either. Kong lacks critical functionality, and is fatally insecure for a wide variety of uses, in short it is beyond worthless, ranging into being a substantial risk to the securi

Re: What email encryption is actually in use?

2002-11-02 Thread Tim May
On Saturday, November 2, 2002, at 08:01 PM, Tyler Durden wrote: "Prior to that, the encrypted email I've sent in the past year or so has almost always failed, because of version incompatibilities," While in Telecom I was auditing optical transport gear, and we adopted the practice of encrypti

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Re: What email encryption is actually in use?

2002-11-02 Thread Tyler Durden
"Prior to that, the encrypted email I've sent in the past year or so has almost always failed, because of version incompatibilities," While in Telecom I was auditing optical transport gear, and we adopted the practice of encrypting all of our audit reports to vendors. Of course, the chance of t

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Clarification of challenge to Joseph Ashwood:

2002-11-02 Thread James A. Donald
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Re: What email encryption is actually in use?

2002-11-02 Thread Bill Stewart
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Re: Katy, bar the door

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Re: Katy, bar the door

2002-11-02 Thread Bill Frantz
At 12:35 PM -0800 11/1/02, John Kelsey wrote: >At 09:32 PM 10/31/02 -0800, Tim May wrote: >... >>If the attackers/hijackers cannot get into the cockpit and gain control >>of the plane, then the most they can do with disabling/lethal/nerve >>gases is to cause the plane to essentially crash randomly.

Re: What email encryption is actually in use?

2002-11-02 Thread Steve Furlong
On Saturday 02 November 2002 12:09, Adam Shostack wrote: > An interesting tidbit in the September Information Security Bulletin > is the claim from MessageLabs that only .005% of the mail they saw in > 2002 is encrypted, up from .003% in 2000. > > ... Last month, about > 5% of my email was sent PGP

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Re: What email encryption is actually in use?

2002-11-02 Thread Adam Shostack
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Re: What email encryption is actually in use?

2002-11-02 Thread David Howe
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Re: What email encryption is actually in use?

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Re: Katy, bar the door

2002-11-02 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, 1 Nov 2002, John Kelsey wrote: > Hmmm. I agree, but if the attackers chose the right time (while the > plane's on autopilot) to release the gas or whatever, they might have an > hour or two to get through the cockpit door, with no resistance at all from > the now-dead passengers or crew.

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