Re: Anonymity of prepaid phone chip-cards

2004-03-29 Thread ken
Thomas Shaddack wrote: [...] Suggested countermeasure: When true anonymity is requested, use the card ONLY ONCE, then destroy it. Makes the calls rather expensive, but less risky. Make sure you can't be traced back by other means, ranging from surveillance cameras in the vicinity of the phone

RE: Anonymity of prepaid phone chip-cards

2004-03-27 Thread baudmax23
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. A. Hettinga Sent: Friday, March 26, 2004 7:10 PM To: Thomas Shaddack; Cypherpunks Subject: Re: Anonymity of prepaid phone chip-cards At 7:51 PM +0100 3/26/04, Thomas Shaddack wrote: I strongly suspect the usage

Re: Anonymity of prepaid phone chip-cards

2004-03-27 Thread baudmax23
At 01:51 PM 3/26/2004, Thomas Shaddack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suggested countermeasure: When true anonymity is requested, use the card ONLY ONCE, then destroy it. Makes the calls rather expensive, but less risky. Make sure you can't be traced back by other means, ranging from surveillance

RE: Anonymity of prepaid phone chip-cards

2004-03-27 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 12:41 AM 3/27/04 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And yet one would've thought that a smart radical would have been able to purchase a measly couple of 50 lb bags of (NH4NO3) without having to call all over the place and brag about it, and for cash at that. You don't want it known, don't say

Re: Anonymity of prepaid phone chip-cards

2004-03-27 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 01:05 AM 3/27/04 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:51 PM 3/26/2004, Thomas Shaddack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suggested countermeasure: When true anonymity is requested, use the card ONLY ONCE, then destroy it. Better yet, take another 10 minutes, get change from a laundromat, and use

RE: Anonymity of prepaid phone chip-cards

2004-03-27 Thread Major Variola (ret)
At 08:39 PM 3/26/04 -0600, Black Unicorn wrote: Keeping calling cards from leaking information probably isn't possible. Limiting the information leaked to that which is already known or is useless is probably the best bet. Using separate cards for separate operations / cells and immediate

Re: Anonymity of prepaid phone chip-cards

2004-03-27 Thread Bill Stewart
At 10:51 AM 3/26/2004, Thomas Shaddack wrote: Each prepaid Trick phone card has its unique serial number. The payphone reads it from the card. The busted person (let's call him target) used the same card for multiple phone calls, thus becoming the card's number known as the target's temporary

Re: Anonymity of prepaid phone chip-cards

2004-03-27 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 7:51 PM +0100 3/26/04, Thomas Shaddack wrote: I strongly suspect the usage logs exist for individual cards, allowing to back-trace the phonecalls done with the given card, thus tracing the identity of the card's owner by the call patterns. Of course. How do you think they caught the Oklahoma

RE: Anonymity of prepaid phone chip-cards

2004-03-27 Thread Black Unicorn
:10 PM To: Thomas Shaddack; Cypherpunks Subject: Re: Anonymity of prepaid phone chip-cards At 7:51 PM +0100 3/26/04, Thomas Shaddack wrote: I strongly suspect the usage logs exist for individual cards, allowing to back-trace the phonecalls done with the given card, thus tracing