On 1 Apr 2005, at 08:31, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
- a NM must pay both DAMs a sum of money, randomly choosen at the time
he applies. This ensures that we always have enough money to process
the request of NMs, you know it needs time to create accounts!
I still think it's just to finance you your me
Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>
>> What the heck is an nzb file? I checked out the listed web site,
>> but it didn't enlighten.
>
>
> FYI, I think it is a seperate file that is sometimes posted along with a
> multi-part binary that contains details about the posts that make up
Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> That is bullshit/lies/cheating (pick one). It should be worded:
>
> "We are not willing to support his hardware just because we (at least
> some of us) decided to demonstrate how can we can strike against the
> non-freeness of the hardware development ass
#include
* Thomas Bushnell BSG [Sat, Mar 26 2005, 11:49:37PM]:
> This is like saying that people will use star office whether it's DFSG
> free or not, so there is no reason to say "we won't distribute this
> until it's DFSG free". In fact, people can and do make things free.
>
> > Please explai
On Wed, 2005-03-30 at 11:37 +0200, David Schmitt wrote:
> To prepare the sourcecode for inspection and/or minor modifications an
> additional argument for debian/rules would fit well into the current model.
>
> Calling "debian/rules prepare" should leave the tree in a state where the
> source
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 09:53:57PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Debian currently ships two ODBC driver managers, unixODBC (source
> package "unixodbc") and iODBC (source package "libiodbc2"). These
> basically do the same thing. Every package that wants to provide
> database access through
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 11:09:21AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>> Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> > On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:50:46AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>> >> What I meant is that if the firmware is truly burned i
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > Why? How does it benefit Debian if our users have to obtain firmware
>> > from somewhere else to make their hardware work? How does it benefit
>> > freedom if we imply that hardware with on-chip firmware is preferable?
>>
>> The DFSG says that's the
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 15:49 +0300, George Danchev wrote:
> On Thursday 31 March 2005 15:14, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> > * Steve Kowalik
> >
> > | On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:54:01 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen uttered
> > |
> > | > TTBOMK, he hasn't discussed this with the dpkg maintainer, nor has he
> > | > m
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 11:09:21AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:50:46AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> >> What I meant is that if the firmware is truly burned into the chup,
> >> then I couldn't change it even
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 11:10:03AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >> Regardless, the point is what we distribute, not what is on my
> >> computer.
> >
> > Why? How does it benefit Debian if our users have to obtain firmware
> > from somewhere
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 09:53:57PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
>That in turn forces the user to set up each ODBC drivers twice, once for
> each driver manager.
Not true; the driver managers are supposed to share config files.
> Well, the above is mostly true because you can build the program
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 17:40 +1000, Steve Kowalik wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:54:01 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen uttered
> > TTBOMK, he hasn't discussed this with the dpkg maintainer, nor has he
> > made his code public.
> >
> Er, Adam Heath has made plenty of uploads of dpkg,
>
Hasn't made any in
* Brian Nelson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Qt in Debian must build against libiodbc2-dev because otherwise it would
> have a circular build-dependency with unixodbc.
Circular build-deps aren't necessairly a real problem. There's a fair
amount of other stuff which have them and in general I think
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 1) Distribute the non-free firmware. Our users are happy.
> 2) Don't distribute the non-free firmware. Our users either download the
> non-free firmware from elsewhere (bad) or replace their hardware with
> parts that have the non-free firmware in flas
Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> /etc/issue is meant for the sysadmin to edit. It is free form
> text. /etc/lsb-release is not.
All conffiles are there for the sysadmin to edit.
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 09:53:57PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote:
> Debian currently ships two ODBC driver managers, unixODBC (source
> package "unixodbc") and iODBC (source package "libiodbc2"). These
> basically do the same thing. Every package that wants to provide
> database access through
Debian currently ships two ODBC driver managers, unixODBC (source
package "unixodbc") and iODBC (source package "libiodbc2"). These
basically do the same thing. Every package that wants to provide
database access through ODBC has to pick at build time which driver
manager to use. That in tur
Ron Johnson wrote:
What the heck is an nzb file? I checked out the listed web site,
but it didn't enlighten.
FYI, I think it is a seperate file that is sometimes posted along with a
multi-part binary that contains details about the posts that make up
that binary and their order. Might even be XM
* Lars Wirzenius:
> /etc/issue is meant for the sysadmin to edit. It is free form
> text. /etc/lsb-release is not.
Why is it in /etc and marked as a conffile? 8-)
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to, 2005-03-31 kello 21:07 +, Michael Ablassmeier kirjoitti:
> On 2005-03-31, Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Given that the sysadmin can and does edit it as they wish, that is
> > pretty useless.
>
> yes, but this might happen to `/etc/lsb-release' too.
That would be classified
hi again,
On 2005-03-31, Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> to, 2005-03-31 kello 20:45 +, Michael Ablassmeier kirjoitti:
>> On 2005-03-31, Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Any package that uses it is going to have to build-depend on the
>> > lsb-release package, which ha
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 20:28 +0300, Mattias Nordstrom wrote:
> Package: wnpp
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> Owner: Mattias Nordstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> * Package name: nzb
> Version : 0.0.20050328
> Upstream Author : Mattias Nordstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> * URL : http:/
to, 2005-03-31 kello 20:45 +, Michael Ablassmeier kirjoitti:
> On 2005-03-31, Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Any package that uses it is going to have to build-depend on the
> > lsb-release package, which has no dependencies (it is a bash shell
> > script and bash is required, so
hi,
On 2005-03-31, Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any package that uses it is going to have to build-depend on the
> lsb-release package, which has no dependencies (it is a bash shell
> script and bash is required, so no explicit dependency needed) and is 88
> kilobytes installed. Not
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 02:46:21PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Huh? I'm not saying I pretend it isn't there. Do I want to modify
> > the source code? No, because there's nothing I could do with it if I
> > could.
>
> I had to modify my
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> When people actually get around to a decent "Free firmware" campaign,
> then I think we'll have a stronger argument for not distributing
> firmware. At the moment, the non-freeness of firmware isn't something
> that seems to bother most people (even if
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Regardless, the point is what we distribute, not what is on my
>> computer.
>
> Why? How does it benefit Debian if our users have to obtain firmware
> from somewhere else to make their hardware work? How does it benefit
> freedom if we imply that ha
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:50:46AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
>> What I meant is that if the firmware is truly burned into the chup,
>> then I couldn't change it even if I had the source code. It was wrong
>> to say that I don't *want* to modify
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 10:31:19AM +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote:
> martin f. krafft writes:
>
> > also sprach Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.31.0906 +0200]:
> >> DISTRIB := $(shell something-that-prints-DEBIAN-or-UBUNTU)
> >
> > Rene told me about lsb-release.
>
> Sounds cool.
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Huh? I'm not saying I pretend it isn't there. Do I want to modify
> the source code? No, because there's nothing I could do with it if I
> could.
I had to modify my BIOS in order to get my laptop to work with my
wireless card. This would have b
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What I meant is that if the firmware is truly burned into the chup,
> then I couldn't change it even if I had the source code. It was wrong
> to say that I don't *want* to modify it, but rather, that I *cannot*
> do so.
This is, by and large, not
Op do, 31-03-2005 te 09:07 +0200, schreef Tollef Fog Heen:
> * Thomas Bushnell BSG
>
> | Huh? I'm not saying I pretend it isn't there. Do I want to modify
> | the source code? No, because there's nothing I could do with it if I
> | could.
>
> Sure there is, like, reprogramming the image show
On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 12:50:46AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
> What I meant is that if the firmware is truly burned into the chup,
> then I couldn't change it even if I had the source code. It was wrong
> to say that I don't *want* to modify it, but rather, that I *cannot*
> do so.
That's
On Thursday 31 March 2005 15:14, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> * Steve Kowalik
>
> | On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:54:01 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen uttered
> |
> | > TTBOMK, he hasn't discussed this with the dpkg maintainer, nor has he
> | > made his code public.
> |
> | Er, Adam Heath has made plenty of uploads o
* Steve Kowalik
| On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 08:54:01 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen uttered
| > TTBOMK, he hasn't discussed this with the dpkg maintainer, nor has he
| > made his code public.
|
| Er, Adam Heath has made plenty of uploads of dpkg, and is listed as an
| Uploader.
Yes, but (again, TTBOMK) he sti
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On Thu, Mar 31, 2005 at 09:11:36AM +0200, Carlo Contavalli wrote:
>
> [...]
>
as usual, I forgot the attachment. Here it is..
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Hello,
I've worked out a trivial patch for start-stop-daemon to enable it
to set per-process ulimits before starting up daemons.
It looks for a file called /etc/limits/name_of_daemon, containing
something like:
# This is a comment
coresoft2048
corehard4096
nofile soft1
On Thu, 2005-03-31 at 10:46 +0200, Piotr Roszatycki wrote:
> What is the real license for this module? The copyright info is very unclear.
Sorry about that. I wasn't sure about the level of detail an ITP should
contain.
The package will end up in non-free, unfortunately. While the parts of
the
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Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * Thomas Bushnell BSG
>
> | Huh? I'm not saying I pretend it isn't there. Do I want to modify
> | the source code? No, because there's nothing I could do with it if I
> | could.
>
> Sure there is, like, reprogramming the image shown when your comp
also sprach Jan Nieuwenhuizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.31.1031 +0200]:
>$ lsb_release
>LSB Version:n/a
>
> Hmm. Is n/a an abbreviation for debiaN/unstAble?
lsb_release -is
read the manpage. n/a means your system is not LSB conformant.
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to, 2005-03-31 kello 10:31 +0200, Jan Nieuwenhuizen kirjoitti:
> Sounds cool.
>
>$ sudo apt-get install lsb-release
>$ lsb-release
>bash: lsb-release: command not found
>$ lsb_release
>LSB Version:n/a
>
> Hmm. Is n/a an abbreviation for debiaN/unstAble?
$ lsb_release -a
martin f. krafft writes:
> also sprach Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005.03.31.0906 +0200]:
>> DISTRIB := $(shell something-that-prints-DEBIAN-or-UBUNTU)
>
> Rene told me about lsb-release.
Sounds cool.
$ sudo apt-get install lsb-release
$ lsb-release
bash: lsb-release: comman
to, 2005-03-31 kello 01:06 -0600, Peter Samuelson kirjoitti:
> [martin f krafft]
> > Parts of debian/rules are Ubuntu-specific (e.g. mv README.Debian
> > README.Ubuntu) and we would love to have that removed.
>
> The DISTRIB thing can be implemented quite easily without include files
> or anything
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