Re: support for installing unconfigured systems (VM images, Debian Live images, preinstalled mobile/tablet images)

2011-08-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 01:34 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Aug 13, Colin Watson wrote: > > > > Marco, do you have any plans for using this scheme as an option or as > > > the default? > Yes, because the upstream maintainers decided that the current scheme > cannot work and will remove support fo

Re: support for installing unconfigured systems (VM images, Debian Live images, preinstalled mobile/tablet images)

2011-08-13 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 13, Colin Watson wrote: > > Marco, do you have any plans for using this scheme as an option or as > > the default? Yes, because the upstream maintainers decided that the current scheme cannot work and will remove support for it. I do not know how long it will be feasible to keep it as a De

Re: Release Update: Goals, Arches, Rolling, Removals

2011-08-13 Thread Luk Claes
On 08/13/2011 09:59 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Neil McGovern , 2011-08-01, 22:07: >> As noted in our previous mail [0DAY:DDA], bug #625449 has been opened >> against developers-reference. This now seems to be drawing itself to a >> conclusion. We would still welcome use of delayed queues where >> ap

Re: Release Update: Goals, Arches, Rolling, Removals

2011-08-13 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 13.08.2011 21:59, schrieb Jakub Wilk: > * Neil McGovern , 2011-08-01, 22:07: >> As noted in our previous mail [0DAY:DDA], bug #625449 has been opened >> against developers-reference. This now seems to be drawing itself to a >> conclusion. We would still welcome use of delayed queues where >> app

Re: Release Update: Goals, Arches, Rolling, Removals

2011-08-13 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Neil McGovern , 2011-08-01, 22:07: As noted in our previous mail [0DAY:DDA], bug #625449 has been opened against developers-reference. This now seems to be drawing itself to a conclusion. We would still welcome use of delayed queues where appropriate, but this also formalises the policy over

Re: Inactive maintainer for teamspeak packages

2011-08-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:27:08AM +0200, Stephan Windmüller wrote: > For more than a half year I am monitoring the state of the non-free > teamspeak packages. A new upstream version is available for more than a > year (bug #594318) and there is also a grave bug with an attached patch > (bug #59830

Bug#637232: general: Multiarch breaks support for non-multiarch toolchain

2011-08-13 Thread Matthias Klose
On 08/09/2011 07:31 PM, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > I got fed up by people reporting bug on libc6, while this problem results > from a decision Debian to implement multiarch. People should work on > implementing a compatibility wrapper and to make upstream toolchain > multiarch aware. Until this is don

Re: support for installing unconfigured systems (VM images, Debian Live images, preinstalled mobile/tablet images)

2011-08-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 02:55:51PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > There is a new network device naming scheme that uses physical location > (slot number or firmware-provided port number) to name PCI network > devices. So far this is implemented in Fedora 15 and RHEL 6.1 (!). I > assume this would

Bug#637668: ITP: pinpoint -- Tool for making hackers do excellent presentations

2011-08-13 Thread Andrea Colangelo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrea Colangelo * Package name: pinpoint Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Øyvind Kolås * URL : https://live.gnome.org/Pinpoint * License : LGPL-2.1 Programming Lang: C Description : Tool for making hackers do exc

Re: mentors.debian.net runs the debexpo code now

2011-08-13 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Paul Wise writes: > On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >> I wonder, is it possible to add a bit more magic to debexpo, so that >> the comments made via the Web interface would be forwarded to the >> list, and vice versa? >> Perhaps Gmane's engine (which is, IIRC,

Re: Introducing Build-Recommends / Build-Core-Depends?

2011-08-13 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 16:48:39 +0200 Guillem Jover wrote: > On Sat, 2011-08-13 at 13:28:36 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > During bootstraping a new architecture, there are sometimes ugly > > build-dependency-loops (usually involving generating documentation > > for the core build utilities means y

Re: Introducing Build-Recommends / Build-Core-Depends?

2011-08-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011, Andreas Barth wrote: > Resulting packages > > All binary packages built need to be functionally working, and follow > the standard for packages on ftp-master. This means they could e.g. > miss documentation (as long as they are not RC-buggy, i.e. they need > to have changelog

Re: Introducing Build-Recommends / Build-Core-Depends?

2011-08-13 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Sat, 2011-08-13 at 13:28:36 +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > During bootstraping a new architecture, there are sometimes ugly > build-dependency-loops (usually involving generating documentation > for the core build utilities means you need to have the architecture > already available; same wi

Re: Introducing Build-Recommends / Build-Core-Depends?

2011-08-13 Thread Andreas Barth
* Joachim Breitner (nome...@debian.org) [110813 16:05]: > Hi, > > just a minor note: > > Am Samstag, den 13.08.2011, 13:28 +0200 schrieb Andreas Barth: > > To mark such packages and to be able to decide when to re-schedule the > > build, all binary-packages get the additional header > > Build-D

Re: Introducing Build-Recommends / Build-Core-Depends?

2011-08-13 Thread Andreas Barth
* Colin Watson (cjwat...@debian.org) [110813 15:27]: > On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 01:28:36PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > During bootstraping a new architecture, there are sometimes ugly > > build-dependency-loops (usually involving generating documentation > > for the core build utilities means yo

Re: use flags? (was: Re: Introducing Build-Recommends / Build-Core-Depends?)

2011-08-13 Thread Andreas Barth
* Eugene V. Lyubimkin (jac...@debian.org) [110813 14:58]: > On 2011-08-13 13:28, Andreas Barth wrote: > > Building with core Dependencies only > > > > If doing an build of the core functionality only, norecommends is > > added to the environment DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS. This is the signal for > > dpkg-b

Re: Introducing Build-Recommends / Build-Core-Depends?

2011-08-13 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, just a minor note: Am Samstag, den 13.08.2011, 13:28 +0200 schrieb Andreas Barth: > To mark such packages and to be able to decide when to re-schedule the > build, all binary-packages get the additional header > Build-Depends: minmal package_version > injected, so that one could see la

Re: support for installing unconfigured systems (VM images, Debian Live images, preinstalled mobile/tablet images)

2011-08-13 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2011-08-13 at 12:51 +0200, Hector Oron wrote: > Hello, > > Getting late to discussion, apologies for that. > > 2011/7/26 Jonas Smedegaard : > > On 11-07-26 at 12:03pm, Paul Wise wrote: > > >> We were thinking that it might be nice to add support to > >> openssh-server for installing th

Re: Introducing Build-Recommends / Build-Core-Depends?

2011-08-13 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 01:28:36PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > During bootstraping a new architecture, there are sometimes ugly > build-dependency-loops (usually involving generating documentation > for the core build utilities means you need to have the architecture > already available; same wit

Re: Introducing Build-Recommends / Build-Core-Depends?

2011-08-13 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 01:28:36PM +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit : > > We should be able to specify in the package saying "only these > build-dependencies are needed to get a functionally working package". > For such an build, the packages which are not needed for building > working core packages a

use flags? (was: Re: Introducing Build-Recommends / Build-Core-Depends?)

2011-08-13 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
On 2011-08-13 13:28, Andreas Barth wrote: > Building with core Dependencies only > > If doing an build of the core functionality only, norecommends is > added to the environment DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS. This is the signal for > dpkg-buildpackage etc to only check for the minimal set of packages, > and f

Re: Introducing Build-Recommends / Build-Core-Depends?

2011-08-13 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:44:46 + (UTC) Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2011-08-13, Andreas Barth wrote: > > Introducing Build-Recommends / Build-Core-Depends > > I like making it easier to bootstrap new architectures, but I don't like > overloading the 'recommends' word with a partly different meani

Re: Introducing Build-Recommends / Build-Core-Depends?

2011-08-13 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2011-08-13, Andreas Barth wrote: > Introducing Build-Recommends / Build-Core-Depends I like making it easier to bootstrap new architectures, but I don't like overloading the 'recommends' word with a partly different meaning. (And since this is my biggest issue with this proposal, I think it i

Introducing Build-Recommends / Build-Core-Depends?

2011-08-13 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, During bootstraping a new architecture, there are sometimes ugly build-dependency-loops (usually involving generating documentation for the core build utilities means you need to have the architecture already available; same with graphical tools). During DebConf, Wookey had a talk which lead

Re: support for installing unconfigured systems (VM images, Debian Live images, preinstalled mobile/tablet images)

2011-08-13 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, Getting late to discussion, apologies for that. 2011/7/26 Jonas Smedegaard : > On 11-07-26 at 12:03pm, Paul Wise wrote: >> We were thinking that it might be nice to add support to >> openssh-server for installing the package, not generating the host >> keys and then generating them on f

Bug#637642: ITP: libbot-training-perl -- Plain text training material for bots

2011-08-13 Thread Maximilian Gass
Package: wnpp Owner: Maximilian Gass Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libbot-training-perl Version : 0.04 Upstream Author : Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Bot-Tr

Re: Inactive maintainer for teamspeak packages

2011-08-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Stephan Windmüller wrote: > Does anyone know something about this maintainer or the states of these > packages? It looks like he isn't active on other packages too, for eg aircrack-ng (RC bug) or ntfs-3g (hijacked). -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWis

Inactive maintainer for teamspeak packages

2011-08-13 Thread Stephan Windmüller
Hello! For more than a half year I am monitoring the state of the non-free teamspeak packages. A new upstream version is available for more than a year (bug #594318) and there is also a grave bug with an attached patch (bug #598304). However, there has been no reply by the maintainer of the packa

Re: mentors.debian.net runs the debexpo code now

2011-08-13 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >        I wonder, is it possible to add a bit more magic to debexpo, so >        that the comments made via the Web interface would be forwarded >        to the list, and vice versa? > >        Perhaps Gmane's engine (which is, IIRC, free softw