Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-29 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 07:24:31AM -1000, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Roberto C. Sanchez [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 02:10:22 -0400]: > > > > Nope, that won't help. Knowing you use Mutt, and unless your MTA is > > > configured in a quite restrictive way, this should solve your problems: > > > > % echo set e

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-29 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Roberto C. Sanchez [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 02:10:22 -0400]: > > Nope, that won't help. Knowing you use Mutt, and unless your MTA is > > configured in a quite restrictive way, this should solve your problems: > > % echo set envelope_from=yes >>~/.muttrc > That did it. Now, care to explain why/how?

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-29 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 29 Aug 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On the other hand, I already tried to discuss that problem with you > guys (alioth admin team) in May 2006; nothing really came out of > it. Wichert questioned that it was a problem at all, I (tried to) > explain why it was a problem, nothing further

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-28 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 08:59:21AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sun, 27 Aug 2006, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: >> accessible mail server. The point is that I only experience this >> problem with Alioth and SourceForge lists, where they use braindead call >> back mechanism to try and reach the

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-28 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 05:37:00PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Is the mailing list software on Alioth broken or misconfigured? If I > send from any host on my network other than the one which happens to be > the mail server, I get this error when I send to an Alioth list: > Aug 27 17:26:48

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-28 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 06:48:31AM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Out of curiousity, if this is such a good thing why are Alioth and > SourceForge the only two services (of the dozens of mailing lists from > half dozen or more services) which use this setup? Also, why is the > error message r

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-28 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 8/28/06, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No offense, but that is completely non-scalable. That only works for a small number of users which does not change frequently. Anyhow, thanks to 'Dato, I seem to have been able to convince mutt to play nicer with your mail server. Yeah

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-28 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 08:59:21AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sun, 27 Aug 2006, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > accessible mail server. The point is that I only experience this > > problem with Alioth and SourceForge lists, where they use braindead call > > back mechanism to try and reach th

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 28, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm an Alioth administrator. If you expect help from us, you'd better not > say that our configuration is "braindead". This is the most basic thing > that we can do to avoid spam. It is not "braindead", but "antisocial". "sender verification"

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-28 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > accessible mail server. The point is that I only experience this > problem with Alioth and SourceForge lists, where they use braindead call > back mechanism to try and reach the host that originated the message. I'm an Alioth administrator. If you

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 08:06:37AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Roberto C. Sanchez [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:45:30 -0400]: > > > Interesting. My previous attempt at solving this was to have mutt > > explicitly set the Return-Path header. However, it did not work. I > > don't know if it was becaus

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-27 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Roberto C. Sanchez [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:45:30 -0400]: > Interesting. My previous attempt at solving this was to have mutt > explicitly set the Return-Path header. However, it did not work. I > don't know if it was because postfix on my gateway host stripped it or > rewrote it, or if it is jus

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:38:56AM +0200, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Martijn van Oosterhout [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 07:22:40 +0200]: > > > I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it matters what domain, the > > address just has to exist. I think that they're checking your Sender > > header (which is where bo

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 07:22:40AM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it matters what domain, the > address just has to exist. I think that they're checking your Sender > header (which is where bounces get sent) for validity. I remember > dealing with thi

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-27 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Martijn van Oosterhout [Mon, 28 Aug 2006 07:22:40 +0200]: > I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think it matters what domain, the > address just has to exist. I think that they're checking your Sender > header (which is where bounces get sent) for validity. Almost. They're checking his envelope-from

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-27 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 8/28/06, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What the message suggests to me is that the other machines in your > domain should be using address rewriting if they are sending from > unroutable addresses. Except that there are multiple domains hosted from my network. Which should

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Aug 28, 2006 at 02:18:12AM +0100, Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Roberto C. Sanchez said: > > Is the mailing list software on Alioth broken or misconfigured? If I > > send from any host on my network other than the one which happens to be > > the mail server, I get this

Re: Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-27 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Roberto C. Sanchez said: > Is the mailing list software on Alioth broken or misconfigured? If I > send from any host on my network other than the one which happens to be > the mail server, I get this error when I send to an Alioth list: > > Aug 27 17:26:48 santiago po

Problem sending to Alioth lists?

2006-08-27 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Is the mailing list software on Alioth broken or misconfigured? If I send from any host on my network other than the one which happens to be the mail server, I get this error when I send to an Alioth list: Aug 27 17:26:48 santiago postfix/smtp[23682]: 4A8002403D: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=lis