Re: automake transition breakages

2013-10-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Ian Jackson writes: > Russ Allbery writes ("Re: automake transition breakages"): >> Well, the simple answer is that we avoid having to maintain local >> patches against the upstream source to remove -Werror, since generally >> it's not something over which w

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-10-11 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Cyril Brulebois (2013-09-30): > That's nice for well maintained packages. Not so nice when packages > start FTBFSing in the middle of a transition because of an automake > update, and maintainers are otherwise busy or MIA. FWIW it took me less than 10 days after I wrote this to actually hit this

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-10-11 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: automake transition breakages"): > Cyril Brulebois writes: > > Meaning one needs to get a fix once; a random NMUer might need to chase > > upstream patches (never a pleasure when fixing unrelated issues). Given > > what you wrote, I

In defense of -Werror [was, Re: automake transition breakages]

2013-09-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 10:35:06AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Cyril Brulebois writes: > > Julian Taylor (2013-09-30): > >> At minimum the packages using Werror should be test rebuilt before each > >> new upload: > >> http://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE.*-Werror > >> The lis

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Eric Dorland
* Niels Thykier (ni...@thykier.net) wrote: > On 2013-09-30 20:38, Eric Dorland wrote: > > * Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) wrote: > >> Cyril Brulebois writes: > >>> Julian Taylor (2013-09-30): > >> > At minimum the packages using Werror should be test rebuilt before each > new upload: >

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Niels Thykier
On 2013-09-30 20:38, Eric Dorland wrote: > * Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) wrote: >> Cyril Brulebois writes: >>> Julian Taylor (2013-09-30): >> At minimum the packages using Werror should be test rebuilt before each new upload: http://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=AM_INIT_AUTOMAK

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Eric Dorland
* Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) wrote: > Cyril Brulebois writes: > > Julian Taylor (2013-09-30): > > >> At minimum the packages using Werror should be test rebuilt before each > >> new upload: > >> http://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE.*-Werror > > >> The list is small enough

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Cyril Brulebois writes: > Meaning one needs to get a fix once; a random NMUer might need to chase > upstream patches (never a pleasure when fixing unrelated issues). Given > what you wrote, I'm not sure what it buys us to keep -Werror in > distribution packages, except for the possibly ticking ti

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Russ Allbery (2013-09-30): > I use -Werror for Automake for all of the packages for which I'm upstream > and have not noticed it being a serious issue, although maybe I'm missing > something? But I didn't have any trouble regenerating the files for my > various packages with Automake 1.14. That'

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Cyril Brulebois writes: > Julian Taylor (2013-09-30): >> At minimum the packages using Werror should be test rebuilt before each >> new upload: >> http://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE.*-Werror >> The list is small enough that it can be done by hand / small script. > So that t

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Cyril Brulebois
[ Dropping -release@ ] Julian Taylor (2013-09-30): > On 30.09.2013 16:58, Eric Dorland wrote: > > Doing a rebuild is something I could try for next time. I'm not really > > familiar with how to do that though, can you point me in the right > > direction? What sort of lintian checks did you have i

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Julian Taylor
On 30.09.2013 16:58, Eric Dorland wrote: > Doing a rebuild is something I could try for next time. I'm not really > familiar with how to do that though, can you point me in the right > direction? What sort of lintian checks did you have in mind? At minimum the packages using Werror should be test

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Eric Dorland
* Ondřej Surý (ond...@sury.org) wrote: > Hi Eric, > > On Mon, Sep 30, 2013, at 4:50, Eric Dorland wrote: > > * Ondřej Surý (ond...@sury.org) wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > recent automake transition to 1.14 broke (FTBFS) at least two of my > > > packages. > > > > > > Would it be possible to coordi

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Eric Dorland
* Guillem Jover (guil...@debian.org) wrote: > Hi! > > On Mon, 2013-09-30 at 11:09:26 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > I have seen these two breakages (so far): > > > > libgd2: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724841 > > This uses -Werror in AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE, don't do that. Ah yes,

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Mon, 2013-09-30 at 11:09:26 +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > I have seen these two breakages (so far): > > libgd2: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724841 This uses -Werror in AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE, don't do that. > gyrus: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=724917 (g

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-30 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi Eric, On Mon, Sep 30, 2013, at 4:50, Eric Dorland wrote: > * Ondřej Surý (ond...@sury.org) wrote: > > Hi, > > > > recent automake transition to 1.14 broke (FTBFS) at least two of my > > packages. > > > > Would it be possible to coordinate the (next) transition better than > > upload&deal with

Re: automake transition breakages

2013-09-29 Thread Eric Dorland
* Ondřej Surý (ond...@sury.org) wrote: > Hi, > > recent automake transition to 1.14 broke (FTBFS) at least two of my > packages. > > Would it be possible to coordinate the (next) transition better than > upload&deal with breakages like we do with the rest of our packages? Did the transition from

automake transition breakages

2013-09-29 Thread Ondřej Surý
Hi, recent automake transition to 1.14 broke (FTBFS) at least two of my packages. Would it be possible to coordinate the (next) transition better than upload&deal with breakages like we do with the rest of our packages? O. -- Ondřej Surý Knot DNS (https://www.knot-dns.cz/) – a high-performance