Re: initrd, lvm, and devfs

2005-01-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 09:03, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess this means sarge won't work "out-of-the-box" with 2.6.11 and > LVM unless you compile your own kernel (one that doesn't require an > initrd image), or fix this initrd image. LVM root can not work without using an init

Re: initrd, lvm, and devfs

2005-01-19 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 01:19:39AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Without devfs the syntax of e.g. /proc/partitions changes and anything > parsing those files needs to adapt back to the old syntax. That was a bad bug in Linux 2.4 and has been fixed in Linux 2.6 already, there even devfs kern

Re: initrd, lvm, and devfs

2005-01-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Alex Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Some of us have woody running on LVM1... well I have this with 2.4 Debian > kernel and LVM1. For LVM1 to work with a kernel that has devfs compiled in > (debian kernels for woody do) then /dev/ has to be a mounted devfs. > > For people such as myself sarge a

Re: initrd, lvm, and devfs

2005-01-18 Thread Joey Hess
Christoph Hellwig wrote: > so unless Debian wants to stay with stoneage kernels you're better of > starting to fix D-I. We're not going to destabalise d-i by beginning to make large changes to it, like not using devfs, until sarge is released. FWIW, the main current d-i release blocker is a lack

Re: initrd, lvm, and devfs

2005-01-18 Thread Alex Owen
Some of us have woody running on LVM1... well I have this with 2.4 Debian kernel and LVM1. For LVM1 to work with a kernel that has devfs compiled in (debian kernels for woody do) then /dev/ has to be a mounted devfs. For people such as myself sarge as it stands will provide a 2.4.27 kernel with de

Re: initrd, lvm, and devfs

2005-01-18 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Brian May] > Whatever happened to the idea of even numbered kernels being > "stable"? You didn't get the memo? That's an obsolete standard - the 2.6.x line of development has been much more aggressive than past stable series, as far as allowed tree changes, and last July or so (I think it was),

Re: initrd, lvm, and devfs

2005-01-17 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 10:34:06AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > so unless Debian wants to stay with stoneage kernels you're better of > starting to fix D-I. That beeing said D-I people have been told > repeatedly that basing an installer on devfs is a bad idea long time > ago, but let's no

Re: initrd, lvm, and devfs

2005-01-17 Thread Brian May
> "Christoph" == Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> In that case, we should probably drop debian-installer altogether, as it >> uses DevFS throughout :-) Christoph> Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt in 2.6.11-rc1: I would have hoped that they would wait unt

Re: initrd, lvm, and devfs

2005-01-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 09:29:41PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Monday 17 January 2005 20:34, Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > so unless Debian wants to stay with stoneage kernels you're better of > > starting to fix D-I. That beeing said D-I people have been told > > repeatedl

Re: initrd, lvm, and devfs

2005-01-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 10:34:06AM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt in 2.6.11-rc1: > > What: devfs > When: July 2005 > Files: fs/devfs/*, include/linux/devfs_fs*.h and assorted devfs > function calls throughout the kernel tree > Why:It h

Re: initrd, lvm, and devfs

2005-01-17 Thread Russell Coker
On Monday 17 January 2005 20:34, Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > so unless Debian wants to stay with stoneage kernels you're better of > starting to fix D-I. That beeing said D-I people have been told > repeatedly that basing an installer on devfs is a bad idea long time > ago, but

Re: initrd, lvm, and devfs

2005-01-17 Thread Christoph Hellwig
> In that case, we should probably drop debian-installer altogether, as it > uses DevFS throughout :-) Documentation/feature-removal-schedule.txt in 2.6.11-rc1: What: devfs When: July 2005 Files: fs/devfs/*, include/linux/devfs_fs*.h and assorted devfs function calls throughout the k

Re: initrd, lvm, and devfs

2005-01-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op ma, 17-01-2005 te 20:03 +1100, schreef Russell Coker: > Devfs is regarded as obsolete in the kernel source. > > The current initrd images produced by initrd-tools does the following for a > LVM system: > mount -nt devfs devfs /dev > vgchange -a y > umount /dev > > This relies on a kernel with

Re: initrd, lvm, and devfs

2005-01-17 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 08:03:42PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > Devfs is regarded as obsolete in the kernel source. > > The current initrd images produced by initrd-tools does the following for a > LVM system: > mount -nt devfs devfs /dev > vgchange -a y > umount /dev > > This relies on a kerne

initrd, lvm, and devfs

2005-01-17 Thread Russell Coker
Devfs is regarded as obsolete in the kernel source. The current initrd images produced by initrd-tools does the following for a LVM system: mount -nt devfs devfs /dev vgchange -a y umount /dev This relies on a kernel with devfs compiled in to boot a system with an LVM root file system. I think