Re: GPL and linking (was: Urgently need GPL compatible libsnmp5-dev replacement :-()

2005-05-06 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, May 06, 2005 at 05:03:09AM +0200, Jakob Bohm wrote: Note: I am replying only to -legal for now, someone with more firm knowledge than either me or Mr. Edwards should post a proper rebuttal to -devel so Mr. Edwards' arguments will not look undisputed to the broad masses of Debian

advice on highpoint drivers

2005-05-06 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
Hi debian-legal, I'm about to package the opensource driver[1] from HighPoint for hpt374-based controllers, however no license is included in the tarball, nor the FAQ provides an answer. I'm going to contact highpoint to ask for a license. Their driver includes binary parts, so it is not

Re: Artistic2?

2005-05-06 Thread David Schmitt
On Friday 06 May 2005 02:28, John Goerzen wrote: Hi, I recently came across ths Artistic 2 (2.0beta5) license at: http://svn.openfoundry.org/pugs/LICENSE/Artistic-2 I couldn't find any previous reference to a DFSG discussion about it. Would it be considered DFSG-free? For reference, the

Re: GPL and linking (was: Urgently need GPL compatible libsnmp5-dev replacement :-()

2005-05-06 Thread Michael K. Edwards
Thank you for a reasoned response, Jakob. Oh, and by the way -- just because I am arguing against the legal validity of the FSF FAQ's claims that linking to a GPL-incompatible work violates the GPL, doesn't mean I think Debian maintainers or debian-legal should take up shrugging at GPL

Re: GPL and linking

2005-05-06 Thread Måns Rullgård
Jakob Bohm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, I have certainly seen no signs that the view expressed in the GPL FAQ does not have consensus on the debian-legal list. Apparently, you have failed to see the numerous disagreeing posts that appear from time to time. -- Måns Rullgård [EMAIL

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Re: GPL and linking (was: Urgently need GPL compatible libsnmp5-dev replacement :-()

2005-05-06 Thread Raul Miller
On 5/5/05, Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to spam debian-devel -- and with a long message containing long paragraphs too, horrors! -- in replying to this. Who is sorry? How sorry? Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that this sorry-ness is not something that matters

Re: GPL and linking

2005-05-06 Thread Humberto Massa
Raul Miller wrote: Actually, it tries to define work based on the Program in terms of derivative work under copyright law, and then incorrectly paraphrases that definition. It's probably worth noting that derivative work and work based on the Program are spelled differently. What's not

Re: Re: For thoughts: fair license

2005-05-06 Thread James William Pye
*under US law*. The equivalents of fair use elsewhere are often much more limited. If you read the Berne treaty, you'll see that it's pretty vague about that. Perhaps you need to add a choice of law (but not of venue) to your licence? The last sentence made me think you thought I was talking

Re: GPL and linking (was: Urgently need GPL compatible libsnmp5-dev replacement :-()

2005-05-06 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 5/6/05, Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/5/05, Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to spam debian-devel -- and with a long message containing long paragraphs too, horrors! -- in replying to this. Who is sorry? How sorry? Let's assume, for the sake of argument,

Re: GPL and linking

2005-05-06 Thread Jeremy Hankins
Humberto Massa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ??? Let's try again: All of this discussion of legal minutia misses (and perhaps supports) what, to my mind, is the most compelling argument for accepting the FSF's position on the subject. The fact is that the question does depend on a lot of legal

Re: GPL and linking

2005-05-06 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 5/6/05, Jeremy Hankins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You may not be qualified (as I am not) to offer legal advice. But you're certainly qualified to have an opinion. Sure. But it's not relevant to this discussion -- despite what many of the

Re: GPL and linking (was: Urgently need GPL compatible libsnmp5-dev replacement :-()

2005-05-06 Thread Raul Miller
On 5/6/05, Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/6/05, Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/6/05, Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Second sentence in Section 0: The Program, below, refers to any such program or work, and a work based on the Program

Re: GPL and linking (was: Urgently need GPL compatible libsnmp5-dev replacement :-()

2005-05-06 Thread Michael K. Edwards
On 5/6/05, Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/6/05, Michael K. Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/6/05, Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe you're objecting to the that is to say phrase, which restates what work based on the Program: means. Attempts to,

Re: GPL and linking (was: Urgently need GPL compatible libsnmp5-dev replacement :-()

2005-05-06 Thread Michael K. Edwards
I don't, except insofar as C - the Program attempts to paraphrase E - the Program (= D). Oh for Pete's sake, (E - the Program) (= D). What a great place for a word wrap. - Michael