Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-12 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 07.05.2014 16:45, schrieb Matthias Klose: > Attached is a proposed change to the Debian Python policy to focus on Python3 > within the distribution. The intent is to document and start a large journey > towards one Python stack in Debian. This is unlikely to happen for jessie+1, > but > we sho

Re: suds (was: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy)

2014-05-08 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 4:11 AM, Mathias Behrle wrote: > * Jordan Metzmeier: " Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy" (Wed, 7 May > 2014 21:55:20 -0500): > > Hello Jordan, > >> The jurko fork was the one I was working with when attempting the port >>

suds (was: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy)

2014-05-08 Thread Mathias Behrle
* Jordan Metzmeier: " Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy" (Wed, 7 May 2014 21:55:20 -0500): Hello Jordan, > The jurko fork was the one I was working with when attempting the port > to suds. I never made it to testing under python3. [...] > I consider debbugs to

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 10:45 PM, Matthias Klose wrote: > Attached is a proposed change to the Debian Python policy to focus on Python3 > within the distribution. The intent is to document and start a large journey > towards one Python stack in Debian. This is unlikely to happen for jessie+1, > b

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On May 07, 2014, at 02:29 PM, Thomas Kluyver wrote: > >>This fork looks like it's actively maintained, and has a recent release on >>PyPI (as suds-jurko): >>https://bitbucket.org/jurko/suds > > There seems to be quite a few forks on PyPI: > > h

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: >> FWIW, while I think getting the python policy to recommend Python3 is a good >> step forward, I think it's more important that we make sure the base system >> is leading by example.

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 07, 2014, at 02:29 PM, Thomas Kluyver wrote: >This fork looks like it's actively maintained, and has a recent release on >PyPI (as suds-jurko): >https://bitbucket.org/jurko/suds There seems to be quite a few forks on PyPI: https://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=search&term=suds&submit=sea

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 11:43:24PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > Am 07.05.2014 23:01, schrieb Steve Langasek: > > On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 10:15:37PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > >> Am 07.05.2014 17:27, schrieb Barry Warsaw: > + ++ + > Applications sho

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 07, 2014, at 11:43 PM, Matthias Klose wrote: >thas was "tools outside the archive". Debian has some infrastructure written >in Python. I don't know if all of this is packaged and available in the >archive. I'm personally less concerned about those than packages inside the archive. -Barr

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 07, 2014, at 02:01 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: >I don't think scripts "outside the archive" are in scope for the python >policy; and I don't think this is what Barry was referring to. I think he >meant python commandline programs, which some people may not think of as >being "applications"?

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 07.05.2014 23:01, schrieb Steve Langasek: > On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 10:15:37PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: >> Am 07.05.2014 17:27, schrieb Barry Warsaw: + ++ + Applications should use Python3, and should not be + packaged for Python2 as we

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Thomas Kluyver
On 7 May 2014 14:11, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > If I had more time to blow, I'd likely try a run at something SUDS API > compatible in Python 3. Won't happen any time soon for me, but it's > something I will eternally praise someone over. > > So many people have tried to forward-port the SUDS code

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 10:15:37PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: >> Am 07.05.2014 17:27, schrieb Barry Warsaw: >> >> + >> >> + >> >> + >> >> +Applications should use Python3, and should not be >> >> +packaged for Py

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, May 07, 2014 at 10:15:37PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > Am 07.05.2014 17:27, schrieb Barry Warsaw: > >> + > >> + > >> + > >> +Applications should use Python3, and should not be > >> +packaged for Python2 as well. > >> + > > Maybe also that system scripts

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 08, 2014, at 06:41 AM, Ben Finney wrote: >Can we converge on a single way to represent the names of these systems >in the document? Currently there seems to be “python3”, “Python3”, >“Python 3” used indiscriminately, without being clear why they would be >spelled differently like that. > >I

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Ben Finney
Matthias Klose writes: > === modified file 'debian/python-policy.sgml' > --- debian/python-policy.sgml 2013-05-22 02:12:02 + > +++ debian/python-policy.sgml 2014-05-07 14:34:24 + […] > @@ -42,8 +42,7 @@ > > > > - Copyright © 1999, 2001, 2003, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2011,

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 07.05.2014 17:27, schrieb Barry Warsaw: >> + >> + >> + >> + Applications should use Python3, and should not be >> + packaged for Python2 as well. >> + > > Maybe also that system scripts written in Python should be Python 3 and not > Python 2. I'd add

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, May 07, 2014 11:27:20 Barry Warsaw wrote: > Should we also update Appendix B to promote --buildsystem=pybuild or at > least reference it? It's a reasonably safe bet that almost anything needs update. Scott K -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-python-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Re: favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 07, 2014, at 04:45 PM, Matthias Klose wrote: >Attached is a proposed change to the Debian Python policy to focus on Python3 >within the distribution. The intent is to document and start a large journey >towards one Python stack in Debian. This is unlikely to happen for jessie+1, >but we sh

favouring Python3 in the Debian policy

2014-05-07 Thread Matthias Klose
Attached is a proposed change to the Debian Python policy to focus on Python3 within the distribution. The intent is to document and start a large journey towards one Python stack in Debian. This is unlikely to happen for jessie+1, but we should state the plan now so that it doesn't come later as