Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-15 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2014/1/15 Jarth Berilcosm > > Looking back on using Linux as a desktop OS for almost 15 years we've > seen tons of features added but not much in terms of 'bite'. > > Hardware support is a lot better but still sucks when it comes to > consumer multi-media, gaming performance etc. > > Someone wrot

Re: update flash

2014-01-15 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > FWIW: Adobe says that 11.2.202 is the last and final Linux version of > Flash. Although, they will continue backported security updates. > Windows/OSX version is up to 12.something-or-other, IIRC. And I'm > beginning to run across sites t

Re: update flash

2014-01-15 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 15 Jan 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: > Jarth Berilcosm wrote: > > If you have flash-player non-free installed make sure to run > > update-flashplugin-nonfree --install > > update-flashplugin-nonfree --status > > ... > > http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/58396 documents what's up with an > > ol

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-15 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Robert Brockway wrote: > The whole question of whether Linux is 'ready for the desktop' is specious. > This statement presumes that everyone has the same desktop requirements > which they demonstratably do not. > > I've been using Linux on the desktop continuously

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-15 Thread Robert Brockway
On Wed, 15 Jan 2014, y...@marupa.net wrote: These "reasons why Linux is not ready for the desktop" lists are so stupid. The whole question of whether Linux is 'ready for the desktop' is specious. This statement presumes that everyone has the same desktop requirements which they demonstratab

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-15 Thread Ma Xiaojun
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Jarth Berilcosm wrote: > Looking back on using Linux as a desktop OS for almost 15 years we've > seen tons of features added but not much in terms of 'bite'. Well deserved for its always crappy state throughout history. Windows was very crappy internally (conside

Re: update flash

2014-01-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Jarth Berilcosm wrote: > If you have flash-player non-free installed make sure to run > update-flashplugin-nonfree --install > update-flashplugin-nonfree --status > ... > http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/58396 documents what's up with an old > exploit used in new scenario's. Good advice. On J

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-15 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 15 January 2014 17:08:22 y...@marupa.net wrote: > This is practically trolling. Practically? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-15 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 16/01/14 08:39, Jarth Berilcosm wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:22:27 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Honestly ? Get a break, go live in a tent or something. Jarth, don't let Ralf upset you, it's not his fault he's human, and that comes with all sorts of illogical baggage. Bash on the other h

Re: update flash

2014-01-15 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 16/01/14 02:56, Jarth Berilcosm wrote: > If you have flash-player non-free installed make sure to run > > update-flashplugin-nonfree --install > > update-flashplugin-nonfree --status > > Flash Player version installed on this system : 11.2.202.335 > Flash Player version available on upstr

Setting up automatic logon after installation.

2014-01-15 Thread Todd Maurice
I want to install Debian in such a way that the system will automatically login (not requiring of me to enter username and password)) as user when the installation is finished. I'm installing a pretty bare system with netinst, no DE, no X manager, just CLI, with nothing selected at taskel in pr

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-15 Thread Jarth Berilcosm
On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 11:08:22 -0600, yaro wrote: Yeah, well, all this bitching proves i should look harder for the off- topic list. > On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 04:53:15 PM Jarth Berilcosm wrote: >> On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 17:29:01 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> >> I'm using a news-reader and coul

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-15 Thread Jarth Berilcosm
On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 18:22:27 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Honestly ? Get a break, go live in a tent or something. > On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 16:53 +, Jarth Berilcosm wrote: >> I'm using a news-reader and could not find the off-topic mailinglist. > > That is a good example how the cheap crap ca

Re: GPT + RAID + boot

2014-01-15 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Sven Hartge writes: PaulNM writes: Thank you both for your help -- your suggestions were exactly what I needed (I delayed responding until I was confident I had everything working). I'm puzzled as to why parted refers to these partition types as "flags" -- seeing that when using the program,

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-15 Thread steef
Origineel bericht On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 16:53 +, Jarth Berilcosm wrote: I'm using a news-reader and could not find the off-topic mailinglist. That is a good example how the cheap crap called computer nowadays is misused, for laziness, carelessness, abyss of ignorance,

Re: Disk is not visible with Debian 7.2 Live

2014-01-15 Thread Koji Tanaka
Jarth, Thanks for the reply. I found out there's no such thing as 7.1 LiveCD, and also found out the older versions in the archive. So I tried 7.0.0, 6.0.7, and 6.0.6. All of them have the same issue. However, I could find my old cd-r and it works fine. So, yeah, some module is removed, and I'll

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-15 Thread Miles Fidelman
Ralf Mardorf wrote: It's a misunderstanding to guess that computer technology is that progressed. Computers are cheap crap. If you are aware that they are nothing but cheap crap, you can use them from an relatively objective point of view. Well put :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-us

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2014-01-15 at 16:53 +, Jarth Berilcosm wrote: > I'm using a news-reader and could not find the off-topic mailinglist. That is a good example how the cheap crap called computer nowadays is misused, for laziness, carelessness, abyss of ignorance, to produce other cheap crap. > Most impo

Re: update flash

2014-01-15 Thread Stephen Allen
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Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-15 Thread yaro
On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 04:53:15 PM Jarth Berilcosm wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 17:29:01 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > I'm using a news-reader and could not find the off-topic mailinglist. > > Sorry to say so but your reply sounds more like rambling than anything. > I'll reply to the par

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-15 Thread Jarth Berilcosm
On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 17:29:01 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I'm using a news-reader and could not find the off-topic mailinglist. Sorry to say so but your reply sounds more like rambling than anything. I'll reply to the part i was able to comprehend. Expectations ? Man, get a good night sleep. Com

Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
> Most importantly this list is not an opinion. Almost every listed > point has links to appropriate articles, threads and discussions > centered on it, proving that I haven't pulled it out of my < expletive > >. And please always check your "facts". > If you get an impression that Linux sucks -

Re: audio dropouts still

2014-01-15 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 1/15/14, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > 2014/1/15 Zenaan Harkness >> Also, looks like I'll have to get back to compiling own kernel. We'll >> see. > > I see you are experiencing audio dropouts still, can I ask which audio card > are you using? Just built-in Intel for now. 00:1b.0 Audio device: I

update flash

2014-01-15 Thread Jarth Berilcosm
If you have flash-player non-free installed make sure to run update-flashplugin-nonfree --install update-flashplugin-nonfree --status Flash Player version installed on this system : 11.2.202.335 Flash Player version available on upstream site: 11.2.202.335 http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/

Re: Disk is not visible with Debian 7.2 Live

2014-01-15 Thread Jarth Berilcosm
Does it still not happen when you boot form the 7.1 LiveCD ? Maybe the 7.2 LiveCD does not load specific modules required for your set- up. Validate with the package maintainers if required. On Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:28:48 -0500, Koji Tanaka wrote: > Hi, > > I'm having a issue that I cannot see di

hpet increased min_delta_ns to

2014-01-15 Thread Jarth Berilcosm
May i ask for some feedback on the below. This bug seems to pop back up again and again, i've found traces dating back to 2004 ... this seems to trigger or correlate with a plethora of issues. Is this a regression of some sort ? On my system this bug >almost< exclusively occurs when i play a

sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-15 Thread Jarth Berilcosm
Looking back on using Linux as a desktop OS for almost 15 years we've seen tons of features added but not much in terms of 'bite'. Hardware support is a lot better but still sucks when it comes to consumer multi-media, gaming performance etc. Someone wrote down a well documented list on all

Re: Debian logging - confused

2014-01-15 Thread Paul Townsend
On 15 Jan 2014, at 11:14, Tanstaafl wrote: > Hi all, > > I understand and agree with the argument for having separate logs for > different services, as it makes troubleshooting individual servcies much > easier - in most cases. > > However, I also would like to have *one* log that *everything

Re: permissions on /dev/nvidia*

2014-01-15 Thread Uli Wannek
It is a very old thread, sorry, but i stumbled upon and meanwhile found a solution: nvidia supplies /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-kernel-common.conf originally containing: alias char-major-195* nvidia options nvidia NVreg_DeviceFileUID=0 NVreg_DeviceFileGID=44 \ NVreg_DeviceFileMod

Re: Debian logging - confused

2014-01-15 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2014/1/15 Tanstaafl > Hi all, > > I understand and agree with the argument for having separate logs for > different services, as it makes troubleshooting individual servcies much > easier - in most cases. > > However, I also would like to have *one* log that *everything* goes to, > because in man

Re: Debian logging - confused

2014-01-15 Thread Klaus
On 15/01/14 11:14, Tanstaafl wrote: The reason I'm asking is, I can't seem to find where sshd is logging (I'm having someone remote in and help me with something, but can't find any record of him having been there yesterday)... Login requests are recorded in /var/log/auth.log -- Klaus -- To

Re: Debian logging - confused

2014-01-15 Thread Jeff Bauer
On 01/15/2014 06:14 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: The reason I'm asking is, I can't seem to find where sshd is logging (I'm having someone remote in and help me with something, but can't find any record of him having been there yesterday)... Appreciate any pointers... Pointer: http://bit.ly/19u0D

Re: Debian logging - confused

2014-01-15 Thread Kailash
On Wednesday 15 January 2014 04:44 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > Hi all, > > I understand and agree with the argument for having separate logs for > different services, as it makes troubleshooting individual servcies much > easier - in most cases. > > However, I also would like to have *one* log that *e

Re: Samsung CLX4195SN and the Samsung Unified Linux Driver on Debian

2014-01-15 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 01/14/2014 06:03 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Debian Wheezy, stock kernel, ULD tarball downloaded from the Samsung > website and compiled. > > I am getting the following error message: > > The components listed below are necessary for proper Unified Linux > Driver operation. Click Cancel now, inst

Debian logging - confused

2014-01-15 Thread Tanstaafl
Hi all, I understand and agree with the argument for having separate logs for different services, as it makes troubleshooting individual servcies much easier - in most cases. However, I also would like to have *one* log that *everything* goes to, because in many cases it makes it much easier

Re: Re: PXE install, without internet?

2014-01-15 Thread Anubhav Yadav
I installed apt-cacher-ng: I did the following: 1) Mounted my debian iso on /media/iso1/ 2) Tweaked my sources.list as deb file:/media/iso1/ wheezy main contrib (just in case) 3) And made changes in fstab to auto mount the iso. 4) created a symlynk to the pool folder in the iso to /var/cac

Re: permissions: can you force ACL to be effective over unix perms?

2014-01-15 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le 15/01/2014 00:21, Bob Goldberg a écrit : On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 7:13 AM, Joel Rees > wrote: Caveat. I don't have the patience to work with ACLs, mostly because I can't see how they could really work without bringing a system to its knees. To be hones