RE: microkernels (I'm not a huge fan of systemd)

2014-07-14 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, >Steve Litt wrote at 2014-07-11 11:21 -0500: >> A bizarre thought just popped into my head, in the form of a little >> voice. The little voice told me that if they guys who controlled the >> decision to go to systemd had been the decision makers in 1990, Linux >> would have a microkernel to

Re: System Temperature sensing

2014-07-14 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 07/14/2014 07:58 PM, B wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:15:27 -0700 Marc Shapiro wrote: lm-sensors sometimes needs tweaking (formulas to get the right temperature(s)). My motherboard is a Gigabyte 970A0-DS3. Are you sure about that, searching: gigabyte 970A0-DS3 doesn't return results (

Re: Skype - no microphone input sound...REVISITED

2014-07-14 Thread A_man_without_clue
On Monday, 14 July, 2014 11:21 PM, Ralph Katz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/13/2014 09:09 PM, Man_Without_Clue wrote: Ok, I had almost given up on this but now little update. As i could not make skype's microphone working on debian wheezy 64 bit, I have been using

Re: Skype - no microphone input sound...REVISITED

2014-07-14 Thread A_man_without_clue
On Monday, 14 July, 2014 07:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 14 July 2014 02:09:25 Man_Without_Clue wrote: Ok, I had almost given up on this but now little update. As i could not make skype's microphone working on debian wheezy 64 bit, I have been using linux mint 17 for skype (4.2, everythi

Re: System Temperature sensing

2014-07-14 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014, Marc Shapiro wrote: > The output for: > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +9.4°C (high = +70.0°C) >(crit = +90.0°C, hyst = +87.0°C) > however, seems troubling. The house thermostat says 75F, which would be > a

Re: System Temperature sensing

2014-07-14 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:15:27 -0700 Marc Shapiro wrote: lm-sensors sometimes needs tweaking (formulas to get the right temperature(s)). > My motherboard is a Gigabyte 970A0-DS3. Are you sure about that, searching: gigabyte 970A0-DS3 doesn't return results (look at the silkscreen printing on you

System Temperature sensing

2014-07-14 Thread Marc Shapiro
My system has been shutting itself down recently. Today it did so while my wife was using the computer and she reports that the box was "quite warm" above the power supply. She left the system powered down so I could check things out myself. When I got home I cleared a small amount of dust

Re: ip address on dhcp client

2014-07-14 Thread mett
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 22:33:11 +0530 rajiv chavan wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 07:53:06 +0530 > - Hide quoted text - > rajiv chavan wrote: > > > Mon, 14 Jul 2014 07:26:20 +0530 > > > > Thank you Mett. > > Traceroute packets from another host dropped by ISP netwoek at > > 218.248.0.0 > > > > >nets

Backing up to encrypted Blu-rays

2014-07-14 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, I just wrote the following documentation on backing up to encrypted Blu-rays: http://troubleshooters.com/lpm/201408/201408.htm When your backup discs are encrypted, offsite backups are much safer. Everything in the documentation applies equally to dvd backups. Hope you enjoy it. Thanks

Debian on Intel NUC?

2014-07-14 Thread Bob Proulx
I have been asked if there are any issues running Debian Stable on one of the newer Intel NUC hardware. Something like this. Intel NUC i5 Intel HD Graphics 5000 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102054 I don't have any experience with this hardware yet. My search fu i

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Gary Dale
On 14/07/14 03:04 PM, Richard Lyons wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 13:37:39 -0400, Doug wrote: On 07/14/2014 10:45 AM, Steve Litt wrote: I can't speak for Debian, but I am using an Epson WP-4530 multifunction. I have never had to load a driver for it in PCLinuxOS-KDE or in Mint KDE, which uses

Re: Time in Emacs status bar

2014-07-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Johann Spies wrote: > When emacs show the time in the status bar, the time zone is not correct. Is it correct when you ask for it directly? What is this output? $ date $ date -R Do you have TZ set? echo $TZ > I have tried to correct it by putting this in ~/.emacs: > > (set-time-zone-r

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Doug
On 07/14/2014 03:04 PM, Richard Lyons wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 13:37:39 -0400, Doug wrote: On 07/14/2014 10:45 AM, Steve Litt wrote: I can't speak for Debian, but I am using an Epson WP-4530 multifunction. I have never had to load a driver for it in PCLinuxOS-KDE or in Mint KDE, which us

Re: Skype - no microphone input sound...REVISITED

2014-07-14 Thread Ralph Katz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/14/2014 01:36 PM, Bret Busby wrote: > On 14/07/2014, Ralph Katz wrote: >> https://wiki.debian.org/skype may help. Skype 4.2.0.13 works for me >> on 64 bit debian wheezy using alsa and libpulse as described in the wiki. >> > > Thank you for

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Richard Lyons
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 13:37:39 -0400, Doug wrote: > > On 07/14/2014 10:45 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > I can't speak for Debian, but I am using an Epson WP-4530 > multifunction. I have never had to load a driver for it in > PCLinuxOS-KDE or in Mint KDE, which uses Ubuntu software. I am tempted by t

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Doug
On 07/14/2014 10:45 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:13:22 +0100 Richard Lyons wrote: Hi, Perhaps someone here has already solved this: I have wasted another 20 hours trying to get sane (or anything that scans) to see a networked Samsung CLX-4195FN. And this is s journey I have

Re: Skype - no microphone input sound...REVISITED

2014-07-14 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/07/2014, Ralph Katz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > https://wiki.debian.org/skype may help. Skype 4.2.0.13 works for me > on 64 bit debian wheezy using alsa and libpulse as described in the wiki. > Thank you for that URL. I was not previously aware of

How does one request 3G modems to be added to those supported under 7.5.0

2014-07-14 Thread Perazim
I am somewhat of a new user of Debian. I have 7.5.0 running using a ZTE 3772-Z USB modem and this worked by just turning broadband on and selecting the 3G provider. I also have two 3G modems that do not work (but work under fedora): T-mobile ZTE MF626 USB modem Orange Alcatel X220D USB

ip address on dhcp client

2014-07-14 Thread rajiv chavan
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 07:53:06 +0530 - Hide quoted text - rajiv chavan wrote: > Mon, 14 Jul 2014 07:26:20 +0530 > > Thank you Mett. > Traceroute packets from another host dropped by ISP netwoek at > 218.248.0.0 > > >netstat -rn > > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window

How does one request 3G modems to be added to those supported under 7.5.0

2014-07-14 Thread P Perazim
I am somewhat of a new user of Debian. I have 7.5.0 running using a ZTE 3772-Z USB modem and this worked by just turning broadband on and selecting the 3G provider. I also have two 3G modems that do not work (but work under fedora): T-mobile ZTE MF626 USB modem Orange Alcatel X220D USB mode

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 14 July 2014 14:13:22 Richard Lyons wrote: > I have wasted another 20 hours trying to get sane (or anything that > scans) to see a networked Samsung CLX-4195FN. Have you spoken to the Samsung second line support Linux specialist(s)? Would you like name and email address (off-list)? T

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:58:56 +0100 Richard Lyons wrote: > Yes, but in fact the printing side is usually manageable -- the main > problem being that CUPS mysteriously finds more and more copies of the > network printer, and it is difficult to know which one to choose when > setting up a new prin

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Jape Person
On 07/14/2014 10:58 AM, Richard Lyons wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 14:38:46 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:13:22 +0100 Richard Lyons wrote: Hello Richard, I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for example. With HP, by and large, you don't need to ins

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Richard Lyons
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:45:57 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > If I'm reading your post correctly, you have no problem printing to > this printer, only scanning. Perhaps you can do what I did... > > My Brother MFC8810DW multifunction is Linux compatable, and I even got > the thing to scan from my

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:58:56 +0100 Richard Lyons wrote: Hello Richard, >Yes, but in fact the printing side is usually manageable -- the main >problem being that CUPS mysteriously finds more and more copies of the I've not experienced that here, but my experience may be uncommon, IDK. As you say

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:13:22 +0100 Richard Lyons wrote: apparently, it needs a special discover program to be network discovered (read all, at least until P2): http://www.bchemnet.com/suldr/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=059e8faf009f3df74e6e30d8aa4f2d6e&action=recent;start=0 also take a look at the r

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 01:18:43 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 02:13:22PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: > > I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for > > example. The sane-project.org website never has the current models, > > however, so I would like to hear

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:13:22 +0100 Richard Lyons wrote: > Hi, > > Perhaps someone here has already solved this: > > I have wasted another 20 hours trying to get sane (or anything that > scans) to see a networked Samsung CLX-4195FN. And this is s journey I > have travelled before with a B+W Brot

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Richard Lyons
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 14:38:46 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:13:22 +0100 > Richard Lyons wrote: > > Hello Richard, > > >I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for example. > > With HP, by and large, you don't need to install their own drivers. > Here, I

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Bzzzz
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:13:22 +0100 Richard Lyons wrote: > I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for > example. The sane-project.org website never has the current > models, however, so I would like to hear any positive experience > others have had before buying another expensive

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Richard Lyons
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 01:18:43 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 02:13:22PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: > > I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for example. > > The sane-project.org website never has the current models, however, so I > > would like to h

Re: Skype - no microphone input sound...REVISITED

2014-07-14 Thread Ralph Katz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/13/2014 09:09 PM, Man_Without_Clue wrote: > Ok, I had almost given up on this but now little update. > > As i could not make skype's microphone working on debian wheezy 64 bit, > I have been using linux mint 17 for skype (4.2, everything works f

Time in Emacs status bar

2014-07-14 Thread Johann Spies
When emacs show the time in the status bar, the time zone is not correct. I have tried to correct it by putting this in ~/.emacs: (set-time-zone-rule "GMT+2") (setq display-time-day-and-date t display-time-24hr-format t) (display-time) But for example the time now is 16:00 in our

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:13:22 +0100 Richard Lyons wrote: Hello Richard, >I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for example. With HP, by and large, you don't need to install their own drivers. Here, I install hplip and drivers (from the repos). >The sane-project.org website ne

Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 02:13:22PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: > I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for example. > The sane-project.org website never has the current models, however, so I > would like to hear any positive experience others have had before buying > another expe

networked multi-function colour laser printers

2014-07-14 Thread Richard Lyons
Hi, Perhaps someone here has already solved this: I have wasted another 20 hours trying to get sane (or anything that scans) to see a networked Samsung CLX-4195FN. And this is s journey I have travelled before with a B+W Brother MFP which ran for a few years under various flavours of Debian with

Re: New 64bit Installation: Vim Keymappings

2014-07-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:42:59PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 09:51:50AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:33:03PM +0300, David Baron wrote: > > > On prior 32-bit installation, had insert/replace explicitly activated by > > > insert key and func

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-14 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-14, Chris Bannister wrote: > > http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Standard_Groups.html > > "This group has write access to all the raw disk devices (/dev/hd* and > /dev/sd*), so assigning users to group disk is both dangerous and a > security risk." I didn't suggest adding regular

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-14 Thread Brian
On Mon 14 Jul 2014 at 22:29:33 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 08:43:46AM +, Curt wrote: > > I've seen documentation suggesting you can create a bootable usb stick > > with a simple feline, but it appears this is now restricted > > permissions-wise in version systemd/20

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 08:43:46AM +, Curt wrote: > I've seen documentation suggesting you can create a bootable usb stick > with a simple feline, but it appears this is now restricted > permissions-wise in version systemd/204-10 to the root user (or a member > of the disk group) http://www.to

Re: New 64bit Installation: Vim Keymappings

2014-07-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 09:51:50AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:33:03PM +0300, David Baron wrote: > > On prior 32-bit installation, had insert/replace explicitly activated by > > insert key and function shown at bottom. Also had line number, % of file > > shown. > > >

Re: Skype - no microphone input sound...REVISITED

2014-07-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 14 July 2014 02:09:25 Man_Without_Clue wrote: > Ok, I had almost given up on this but now little update. > > As i could not make skype's microphone working on debian wheezy 64 bit, > I have been using linux mint 17 for skype (4.2, everything works fine > there). > > I was just trying to u

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-14 Thread Curt
On 2014-07-13, The Wanderer wrote: > > On 07/13/2014 02:17 PM, Brian wrote: > >> However, Tom H is right. Blame systemd is the first port of call when >> something doesn't work as expected. I nearly did it myself a day or >> two ago. What do you expect 'cat debian.iso > /dev/sdX' *as a user* >> on

Re: New 64bit Installation: Vim Keymappings

2014-07-14 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:33:03PM +0300, David Baron wrote: > On prior 32-bit installation, had insert/replace explicitly activated by > insert key and function shown at bottom. Also had line number, % of file > shown. > > Current installation lack this and insert function is problematic at bes

Re: UEFI

2014-07-14 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 13 Jul 2014 09:49:40 -0700 Noah Meyerhans napísal: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 11:23:11AM +0200, Slavko wrote: > > By this, i see, that the secure boot is good for corporate > > environment, don't affect average home users. For others there is > > more simple to disable it, than alw

Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd

2014-07-14 Thread Virgo Pärna
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 09:44:20 -0400, Tom H wrote: > > "/etc/init.d/foobar start" has been deprecated since "service ..." was > introduced to Debian. As has been covered before here, using "service > ..." cleans up the environment in which the daemon's launched. You can > use "systemctl ..." with sy

Re: PuTTY SSH client security

2014-07-14 Thread Virgo Pärna
On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 12:13:10 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: > > I think you meant to say "susceptible", not "suspectible". > But otherwise, that's a good point. > Oops, sorry. -- Virgo Pärna virgo.pa...@mail.ee -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with