On Sat, 25 Apr 2009, prad wrote:
we use (and support) both, but i'd like to establish a rationale for
using one or the other.
are there situations where debian is preferable (eg older hardware)?
are there situations where ubuntu is preferable (eg picking up newer
hardware)?
what's better for
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
>
> On this computer, a desktop, I usually run Debian 4.0. I find it more
> convenient, for most things, and I do not like the sudo that Ubuntu uses; I
> prefer su - root. Before people start criticising that preference, it it my
> preference, and
And for anyone that wants a root prompt without disabling sudo, the
folowing command has worked for me on the various 'buntus:
`sudo su'
- Nate >>
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On Sat, 2 May 2009, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
On this computer, a desktop, I usually run Debian 4.0. I find it more
convenient, for most things, and I do not like the sudo that Ubuntu uses; I
prefer su - root. Before people start criticising
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
>
> Thank you for that.
>
> Before I try it, please advise whether, in removing the sudo facility for
> users, the package management (both adding/removing packages, and,
> downloading and installing updates, and using synaptic) will work by
> ent
On Sat,02.May.09, 20:07:30, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> And for anyone that wants a root prompt without disabling sudo, the
> folowing command has worked for me on the various 'buntus:
>
> `sudo su'
Why not 'sudo -i' (I'm trying to keep it simple and no involve two
programs if avoidable)?
Regards,
A
Bret Busby wrote:
> Before I try it, please advise whether, in removing the sudo facility for
> users, the package management (both adding/removing packages, and,
> downloading and installing updates, and using synaptic) will work by
> entering only the root password.
The package management softwa
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 07:29:07AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Bret Busby wrote:
> > Before I try it, please advise whether, in removing the sudo facility for
> > users, the package management (both adding/removing packages, and,
> > downloading and installing updates, and using synaptic) will work
> [...] If you later run
> aptitude as root, those prefernces won't be active. Also, vis-versa.
So copy them?
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On Sun, 3 May 2009 10:18:49 -0400
"Douglas A. Tutty" wrote:
> On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 07:29:07AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> > Bret Busby wrote:
> > > Before I try it, please advise whether, in removing the sudo
> > > facility for users, the package management (both
> > > adding/removing packages
Raquel wrote:
On Sun, 3 May 2009 10:18:49 -0400
"Douglas A. Tutty" wrote:
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 07:29:07AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
Bret Busby wrote:
Before I try it, please advise whether, in removing the sudo
facility for users, the package management (both
adding/removing packages, and
2009/5/4 Mark Allums :
> Raquel wrote:
>> I don't think that aptitude will run as $user, Douglas. It always
>> runs as root. At least, that's what it's always told me when I've
>> mistakenly tried to run it as $user.
>
> It runs as user (in GUI mode), but it won't attempt to make changes to the
>
On Sun,03.May.09, 10:18:49, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> However, does the package management software (as aptitude does) store
> user preferences in the home directory? If, for example, you always run
> aptitude as yourself then give it the root password when prompted, it
> stores your preferences
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 08:51:28AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Sun,03.May.09, 10:18:49, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>
> > However, does the package management software (as aptitude does) store
> > user preferences in the home directory? If, for example, you always run
> > aptitude as yourself
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Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 08:51:28AM +0300, Andrei Popescu
> was heard to say:
>> On Sun,03.May.09, 10:18:49, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>>
>>> However, does the package management software (as aptitude does) store
>>> user prefe
On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 08:51:28AM +0300, Andrei Popescu
was heard to say:
> On Sun,03.May.09, 10:18:49, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>
> > However, does the package management software (as aptitude does) store
> > user preferences in the home directory? If, for example, you always run
> > aptitude
Harry Rickards wrote:
> But if they can run aptitude in the first place, surely they could
> either su to root or use sudo to read or delete the files. Just my opinion.
Aptitude doesn't need root to run. I tell my users to check aptitude if
they want to find out if I'm willing to install it (lar
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Paul Johnson wrote:
> Harry Rickards wrote:
>
>> But if they can run aptitude in the first place, surely they could
>> either su to root or use sudo to read or delete the files. Just my opinion.
>
> Aptitude doesn't need root to run. I tell my users
On Mon,04.May.09, 19:10:44, Harry Rickards wrote:
> Sorry, yeah I was thinking of aptitude as in 'aptitude install bash',
> not aptitude as the gui-based tool.
aptitude search interesting_package
;)
Regards,
Andrei
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On 4 May 2009, at 21:01, Andrei Popescu
wrote:
On Mon,04.May.09, 19:10:44, Harry Rickards wrote:
Sorry, yeah I was thinking of aptitude as in 'aptitude install bash',
not aptitude as the gui-based tool.
aptitude search interesting_package
Yeah, there's that as well.
Many thanks
Harry
On Monday 04 May 2009 19:10:44 Harry Rickards wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> > Harry Rickards wrote:
> >> But if they can run aptitude in the first place, surely they could
> >> either su to root or use sudo to read or delete the files. Just my
> >> opinion.
> >
> > Aptitude doesn't need root to ru
On Sat, 2 May 2009 17:51:35 +0800 (WST)
Bret Busby wrote:
...
> On this desktop computer, I also dual boot into Ubuntu 8.04. Ubuntu 8.04
> can do things that I have been unable to do with Debian 4.0, such as
> viewing .wmv files.
I can view wmv files fine on my Debian Sid; can you provide an
On Saturday 02 May 2009 19:02:42 Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> There's nothing special about how Ubuntu does it. In fact, when you
> install Etch you can have the Ubuntu behavior at installation time (when it
> prompts for a root password, select Cancel, then in the installer menu,
> select the opt
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> Daniel Burrows wrote:
> > On Mon, May 04, 2009 at 08:51:28AM +0300, Andrei Popescu
> > was heard to say:
> >> On Sun,03.May.09, 10:18:49, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
[snip]
>
> Bu
In <20090506023930.gb12...@samad.com.au>, Alex Samad wrote:
>how can you create files in $HOME that the owner of $HOME can't delete
>?
b...@monster:~$ sudo mkdir data
[sudo] password for bss:
b...@monster:~$ sudo touch data/file
b...@monster:~$ rm -rf data
rm: cannot remove `data/file': Permission
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 11:09:22PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> In <20090506023930.gb12...@samad.com.au>, Alex Samad wrote:
> >how can you create files in $HOME that the owner of $HOME can't delete
> >?
>
> b...@monster:~$ sudo mkdir data
> [sudo] password for bss:
> b...@monster:~$ sudo
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