Re: ls sort order: new, bad, behaviour

2007-09-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-09-24 02:44:13, schrieb Eric d'Alibut: > On 9/24/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Jeez, this has been a bad computer day for me. > > > ls listings are just like Steve's. > > I'm back to my figment of the imagination idea: this phantom > dirs-first ls listing is a delusion

Re: ls sort order: new, bad, behaviour

2007-09-23 Thread Eric d'Alibut
On 9/24/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jeez, this has been a bad computer day for me. > ls listings are just like Steve's. I'm back to my figment of the imagination idea: this phantom dirs-first ls listing is a delusion produced by too much mc use. -- No no no, my fish's name is

Re: ls sort order: new, bad, behaviour

2007-09-23 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/23/07 16:11, s. keeling wrote: > Eric d'Alibut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On 9/23/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> namely, an 'ls' that sorts directories first, and ordinary files afterwards? Do others actually see that behav

Re: ls sort order: new, bad, behaviour

2007-09-23 Thread s. keeling
Eric d'Alibut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 9/23/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > namely, an 'ls' that sorts directories first, and > > > ordinary files afterwards? Do others actually see that behaviour in > > > terminals? > > > Sure. That's how it works for me. Not for me. I ge

Re: ls sort order: new, bad, behaviour

2007-09-23 Thread Mumia W..
On 09/23/2007 03:05 PM, Eric d'Alibut wrote: [...] Do you have LS_OPTIONS set, or 'ls' aliased? I apologize for suggesting that aliasing ls to 'ls -X' would give the behavior you want; it does not (but it comes close). I've never seen ls sort directory names first. If I may make so bold a

Re: ls sort order: new, bad, behaviour

2007-09-23 Thread Eric d'Alibut
On 9/23/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > namely, an 'ls' that sorts directories first, and > > ordinary files afterwards? Do others actually see that behaviour in > > terminals? > Sure. That's how it works for me. > $ locale > LANG= > LANGUAGE=en_US:en_GB:en > LC_CTYPE="POSIX" > L

Re: ls sort order: new, bad, behaviour

2007-09-23 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/23/07 00:49, Eric d'Alibut wrote: > On 9/22/07, Benjamin A'Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Do 'printenv | grep LC_COLLATE' or 'locale' show the right setting? > > I am beginning to think I am a victim of my addled pate. Have I been > using

Re: ls sort order: new, bad, behaviour

2007-09-22 Thread Eric d'Alibut
On 9/22/07, Benjamin A'Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do 'printenv | grep LC_COLLATE' or 'locale' show the right setting? I am beginning to think I am a victim of my addled pate. Have I been using midnight commander too much? Am I looking for a fig newton of my imagination, namely, an 'ls' that

Re: ls sort order: new, bad, behaviour

2007-09-22 Thread Mumia W..
On 09/22/2007 05:53 PM, Eric d'Alibut wrote: Last night I installed, and then removed, the ftpd and proftpd debs, in that order. Now I cannot by hook or crook get 'ls' to behave as it did before those ftp experiments. 'ls' now sorts strictly by filename -- including directories -- so that the lat

Re: ls sort order: new, bad, behaviour

2007-09-22 Thread s. keeling
Eric d'Alibut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Last night I installed, and then removed, the ftpd and proftpd debs, Glad I don't use 'em. > in that order. Now I cannot by hook or crook get 'ls' to behave as it > did before those ftp experiments. 'ls' now sorts strictly by filename > -- including direct

Re: ls sort order: new, bad, behaviour

2007-09-22 Thread Benjamin A'Lee
On Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 06:53:57PM -0400, Eric d'Alibut wrote: > Last night I installed, and then removed, the ftpd and proftpd debs, > in that order. Now I cannot by hook or crook get 'ls' to behave as it > did before those ftp experiments. 'ls' now sorts strictly by filename > -- including direct

ls sort order: new, bad, behaviour

2007-09-22 Thread Eric d'Alibut
Last night I installed, and then removed, the ftpd and proftpd debs, in that order. Now I cannot by hook or crook get 'ls' to behave as it did before those ftp experiments. 'ls' now sorts strictly by filename -- including directories -- so that the latter are "mixed in" with regular files in the ou