Re: Remote connect to MySQL db with woody - Help please?

2005-06-21 Thread Mr Mike
On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 09:07 +0200, Maurits van Rees wrote: > On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 05:54:19AM +, s. keeling wrote: > > I'm having a bit of trouble here. My employer's op. is based on a vpn > > running on Ensim (Pt!), within which is running a MySQL database. &

Re: Remote connect to MySQL db with woody - Help please?

2005-06-21 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 05:54:19AM +, s. keeling wrote: > I'm having a bit of trouble here. My employer's op. is based on a vpn > running on Ensim (Pt!), within which is running a MySQL database. > I've looked at several things (mysql-navigator 1.2.4-1, OpenOffic

Remote connect to MySQL db with woody - Help please?

2005-06-20 Thread s. keeling
I'm having a bit of trouble here. My employer's op. is based on a vpn running on Ensim (Pt!), within which is running a MySQL database. I've looked at several things (mysql-navigator 1.2.4-1, OpenOffice 1.1.4, ...) in order to connect remotely, to no effect. mysqladmin do

Re: Confusing email from MySQL corrupt table check

2005-06-07 Thread Andy Smith
On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 09:03:33PM +0200, Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: > Am Montag, den 06.06.2005, 16:00 + schrieb Andy Smith: > > /usr/bin/mysqlcheck: Got error: 1102: Incorrect database name > > 'DATADIR.link' when selecting the database > > Me too. >

Re: Confusing email from MySQL corrupt table check

2005-06-07 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi, Am Montag, den 06.06.2005, 16:00 + schrieb Andy Smith: > /usr/bin/mysqlcheck: Got error: 1102: Incorrect database name 'DATADIR.link' > when selecting the database Me too. When I looked at /var/lib/mysql, there was a dead softlink with this name. Maybe it has somethin

Confusing email from MySQL corrupt table check

2005-06-06 Thread Andy Smith
Every time I restart MySQL (mysql-server-4.1) on any of several of my sarge machines I get the following email: /usr/bin/mysqlcheck: Got error: 1102: Incorrect database name 'DATADIR.link' when selecting the database Improperly closed tables are also reported if clients are acce

RE: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-06-02 Thread Timothy Spear
Yikes, I did mean 200GB. That is what I get for responding after pulling an all night installation/setup for testing. Tim -Original Message- From: Ron Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:09 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: MySQL Performance

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-06-02 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 1 Jun 2005 07:24:15 -0400 "Timothy Spear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > the pre-packaged MySQL. Again, no explanation as to why FYI, this > database about 2GB with over a billion records split between the two primary > transaction tables. A 2GB DB with

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-06-01 Thread Simon
Ron Johnson wrote: The readahead on the Woody box is 8, it is 256 on the sarge box. That's one difference. Are both boxes only MySQL servers, and are you *sure* that the Sarge box is quiescent when you run the test? The sarge box is a production box, which runs the standard LAMP setup

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-06-01 Thread Jochen Schulz
Marty: > Jochen Schulz wrote: > > > >Again, I think you are searching in the wrong direction. Your 'hdparm > >-tT' results clearly showed that the great difference between your > >servers doesn't lie in hard disk performance (48 to 43 MB/s), but in > >Memory/CPU performance (278 to 58 MB/s). > > T

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-06-01 Thread Simon
ed, just as one possible reason, however unlikely. See Slashdot discussion on "Your hard drive lies to you": http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/05/13/0529252&tid=198&tid=128 ) When doing the same SQL query several times the hard disk shouldn't be bothered much

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-06-01 Thread Marty
Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: There is no such thing as "raid caching". There is something called "write caching", but that doesn't have anything to do with reads. I'm not trying to start a debate, but I don't follow this logic at all. What if the system tries to read back some write cached d

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-06-01 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Jochen Schulz wrote: >> Simon: >>> Jacob S wrote: >>> >>> # hdparm /dev/hde >>> [...] >>> # hdparm /dev/hdg >> >> Again, I think you are searching in the wrong direction. Your 'hdparm >> -tT' results clearly showed that the great

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-06-01 Thread Ionut Georgescu
On Wed, Jun 01, 2005 at 06:03:28PM +1200, Simon wrote: > Jacob S wrote: > > The above raid consists of: > > # hdparm /dev/hde > > /dev/hde: > multcount= 0 (off) > I/O support = 0 (default 16-bit) > unmaskirq= 0 (off) > using_dma= 1 (on) > keepsettings = 0 (off) > nowerr

RE: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-06-01 Thread Timothy Spear
Late last year, I also found problems with MySQL 4 running on the Sarge 2.6 Kernels. The 2.4 Kernel on Sarge for the packaged MySQL was much faster, I did not looked into why this is, since Sarge was not ready for release and this was a test machine. On a second test machine, I did build MySQL

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-06-01 Thread Ron Johnson
18240, start = 0 > > # hdparm /dev/hdg > > /dev/hdg: > multcount= 0 (off) > IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit) > unmaskirq= 0 (off) > using_dma= 1 (on) > keepsettings = 0 (off) > readonly = 0 (off) > readahead= 256 (on) >

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-06-01 Thread Marty
SQL query several times the hard disk shouldn't be bothered much anyway since either MySQL or a´t least Linux itself should have cached the data. J. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-06-01 Thread Jochen Schulz
to 43 MB/s), but in Memory/CPU performance (278 to 58 MB/s). When doing the same SQL query several times the hard disk shouldn't be bothered much anyway since either MySQL or a´t least Linux itself should have cached the data. J. -- Nothing is as I planned it. [Agree] [Disagree]

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-05-31 Thread Simon
Jacob S wrote: What does 'hdparm' return for the RAID drive on each server when you don't give it any options (ie. 'hdparm /dev/hda')? You might also include the same output for hdparm run each of the hard drives used to make the array. What are the specs on the hard drives/RAID setup on both

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-05-31 Thread Simon
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: Step 1. Switch to Postgres. Life's far too short to waste time reading replies like that. Why. I was serious. He has a database that is approaching 1 million records. MySQL simply does not perform as well with large databases. Thus, the most logical thi

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-05-31 Thread Jacob S
On Tue, 31 May 2005 13:58:41 +1200 Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jacob S wrote: > > > What does 'hdparm' return for the RAID drive on each server when you > > don't give it any options (ie. 'hdparm /dev/hda')? You might also > > include the same output for hdparm run each of the hard drives

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-05-31 Thread Ron Johnson
31, 2005 at 12:39:25PM +1200, Simon wrote: > > > > > How do i start figuing out this issue? > > > > > > > > Step 1. Switch to Postgres. > > > > > > Life's far too short to waste time reading replies like that. > > > > Why.

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-05-31 Thread Jochen Schulz
Simon: > > The only difference i can find is that an htparm on the RAID drive: > > woody: > > Timing buffer-cache reads: 128 MB in 0.46 seconds =278.26 MB/sec > Timing buffered disk reads: 64 MB in 1.33 seconds = 48.12 MB/sec > > sarge: > > Timing cached reads: 196 MB in 3.38 seconds =

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-05-31 Thread Hal Vaughan
> > > > > > Step 1. Switch to Postgres. > > > > Life's far too short to waste time reading replies like that. > > Why. I was serious. He has a database that is approaching 1 million > records. MySQL simply does not perform as well with large data

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-05-30 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
t; Life's far too short to waste time reading replies like that. > Why. I was serious. He has a database that is approaching 1 million records. MySQL simply does not perform as well with large databases. Thus, the most logical thing to do to increase performance of the database is to switch t

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-05-30 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Roberto C. Sanchez: > On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 12:39:25PM +1200, Simon wrote: > > > > How do i start figuing out this issue? > > Step 1. Switch to Postgres. Life's far too short to waste time reading replies like that. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficient

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-05-30 Thread Jacob S
On Tue, 31 May 2005 12:39:25 +1200 Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi There, I have a strange issue with mysql performance... We are > running sarge on our production web server and woody on our dev > server... MySQL is the only issue we have: > > Both servers are runn

Re: MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-05-30 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 12:39:25PM +1200, Simon wrote: > Hi There, I have a strange issue with mysql performance... We are running > sarge > on our production web server and woody on our dev server... MySQL is the only > issue we have: > > Both servers are running MySQL 4.

MySQL Performance Woody Vs Sarge

2005-05-30 Thread Simon
Hi There, I have a strange issue with mysql performance... We are running sarge on our production web server and woody on our dev server... MySQL is the only issue we have: Both servers are running MySQL 4.0.24, one Debian_4 (woody) and one Debian_5 (sarge)... Both my.cnf files are pretty

Re: MySQL won't start

2005-05-29 Thread Palantir
" does not exist > - /etc/hostname does not exist 1 and 2 are in place, working and readable. Lo makes no difference - I have tried with both, up and down. However, after some more hours of trying I have found a fix in this way: just commented the line (in my.cnf): #bind-address =

MySQL won't start

2005-05-29 Thread Palantir
Hello! I have been trying to solve this since this morning, but I seem to be going nowhere :( Using debian testing, installed today. My computer is called "firewall" and the command resolveip localhost or resolveip firewall correctly return 127.0.0.1 When I try to start mysql from co

MySQL 5.x debian packages?

2005-05-26 Thread Jessica Svensson
Can anyone please tell me where i can find mysql 5.x debian packages? So i could easily install it via apt-get thanks! _ Nyhet! Hotmail direkt i Mobilen! http://mobile.msn.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED

iodbc with mysql DSN error

2005-05-18 Thread BAGI Akos
Hi List! I have to connect with iodbc to mysql-4 server. I tried all the setting I can imagine and I get always "No DSN entered" error. = 1: SQLDriverConnect = [MySQL][ODBC 3.51 Driver]No DSN entered (516) SQLSTATE=HY000 1: OD

Re: mysql access setup

2005-05-18 Thread Jérôme Drouet
stan a écrit : I need to make mysql accessable from all machines on my network. How do I do this under Debian? Curently if I just do "mysql" on the machine I've installed it on, I get connected, but if I do "mysql -h foo" even on foo, I get: ERROR 1045: Access denied fo

Re: MySQL 5 on Debian Sarge

2005-05-18 Thread Jacob Friis Larsen
> > I'd like to use MySQL 5 on my Debian Sarge machines. > > > > Which should I download and how do I set it up? > > http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/5.0.html > > For an easy time of it try www.dotdeb.org But I'd like to use those from MySQL. Thanks, Jacob

Re: MySQL 5 on Debian Sarge

2005-05-17 Thread CaT
On Tue, May 17, 2005 at 02:50:39PM +0200, Jacob Friis Larsen wrote: > Hi. > > I'd like to use MySQL 5 on my Debian Sarge machines. > > Which should I download and how do I set it up? > http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/5.0.html For an easy time of it try www.dotd

MySQL 5 on Debian Sarge

2005-05-17 Thread Jacob Friis Larsen
Hi. I'd like to use MySQL 5 on my Debian Sarge machines. Which should I download and how do I set it up? http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/mysql/5.0.html Thanks, Jacob

Re: mysql access setup

2005-05-15 Thread Matias Rollan
Hola ! On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 08:20:37AM -0400, stan wrote: > I need to make mysql accessable from all machines on my network. > > How do I do this under Debian? The same as under other distribution. :) > > Curently if I just do "mysql" on the machine I've inst

mysql access setup

2005-05-15 Thread shatam bhattacharya
  > I need to make mysql accessable from all machines on my network. > How do I do this under Debian? > Curently if I just do "mysql" on the machine I've installed it on, > I get connected, but if I do "mysql -h foo" even on foo, I get: > ERROR 1045: A

Re: mysql access setup

2005-05-15 Thread [KS]
stan wrote: > I need to make mysql accessable from all machines on my network. > > How do I do this under Debian? > > Curently if I just do "mysql" on the machine I've installed it on, > I get connected, but if I do "mysql -h foo" even on foo, I g

mysql access setup

2005-05-15 Thread stan
I need to make mysql accessable from all machines on my network. How do I do this under Debian? Curently if I just do "mysql" on the machine I've installed it on, I get connected, but if I do "mysql -h foo" even on foo, I get: ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: &

Re: mysql bind-address refuses to work

2005-05-13 Thread Robert Vangel
schnitzel meister wrote: # netstat -nalp|grep sql tcp0 0 84.244.3.152:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 714/mysqld unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 804845794 714/mysqld /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock I just noticed with this.. there aren't any other bind-addre

Re: mysql bind-address refuses to work

2005-05-13 Thread Robert Vangel
schnitzel meister wrote: Can you check the mysqld.log/mysqld.err/syslog for anything? Also try running mysqld_safe on its own and check the output. Please also keep the discussion on-list. Thanks. I don't have those files, but I do have mysql.err, which is empty. syslog shows no mysql e

Re: mysql bind-address refuses to work

2005-05-13 Thread schnitzel meister
= localhost > >>> > >>>This does not work. netstat shows the server bound to both the public > >>>and loopback ip addresses. > >>> > >>>I'm running "mysql Ver 14.7 Distrib 4.1.11, for pc-linux-gnu (i386) on > >>>Sar

Re: mysql bind-address refuses to work

2005-05-13 Thread Robert Vangel
schnitzel meister wrote: On 5/13/05, Robert Vangel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: schnitzelmeister wrote: In my.cnf I have: bind-address= localhost This does not work. netstat shows the server bound to both the public and loopback ip addresses. I'm running "mysql Ver 14.

Re: mysql bind-address refuses to work

2005-05-13 Thread Robert Vangel
schnitzelmeister wrote: In my.cnf I have: bind-address= localhost This does not work. netstat shows the server bound to both the public and loopback ip addresses. I'm running "mysql Ver 14.7 Distrib 4.1.11, for pc-linux-gnu (i386) on Sarge. Any ideas? Thanks Where do yo

mysql bind-address refuses to work

2005-05-13 Thread schnitzelmeister
In my.cnf I have: bind-address= localhost This does not work. netstat shows the server bound to both the public and loopback ip addresses. I'm running "mysql Ver 14.7 Distrib 4.1.11, for pc-linux-gnu (i386) on Sarge. Any ideas? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: Starting/installing Mysql on debian

2005-05-12 Thread Sergio Basurto Juarez
--- Ms Linuz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > debian wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > I always installed mysql from source, never had a > problem. > > Now i installed mysql via apt-get > (mysql-common-4.1.0). > > I get the message that it is

Re: Starting/installing Mysql on debian

2005-05-12 Thread Nebodi Gatreba
Simply type "mysql -u your_username -pyour_password" in the console window (command line) and you will find yourself in MySQL

Re: Starting/installing Mysql on debian

2005-05-12 Thread Ms Linuz
debian wrote: > > Hello, > > I always installed mysql from source, never had a problem. > Now i installed mysql via apt-get (mysql-common-4.1.0). > I get the message that it is installed but now i wonder where it is > installed ?? > I don't find anything to start it a

Starting/installing Mysql on debian

2005-05-12 Thread debian
Title: Starting/installing Mysql on debian Hello, I always installed mysql from source, never had a problem. Now i installed mysql via apt-get (mysql-common-4.1.0). I get the message that it is installed but now i wonder where it is installed ?? I don't find anything to start i

Re: apt-get install mysql

2005-05-05 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 03:32:28PM -0400, Gallagher Timothy-TIMOTHYG wrote: > I am trying to apt-get install mysql but I cannot find the software package > deb. I get the error: > > Package mysql is not available, but is referred to by another package. > This may mean that the pac

Re: apt-get install mysql

2005-05-05 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 05 May 2005 03:32 pm, Gallagher Timothy-TIMOTHYG wrote: > I am trying to apt-get install mysql but I cannot find the software package > deb. I get the error: > > Package mysql is not available, but is referred to by another package. > This may mean that the package

apt-get install mysql

2005-05-05 Thread Gallagher Timothy-TIMOTHYG
I am trying to apt-get install mysql but I cannot find the software package deb. I get the error: Package mysql is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package mysql has no

Problem with maildrop and mysql

2005-01-05 Thread Julien
Hi all, I'm trying to configure maildrop to work with postfix and courier but i have some problems: I have postfix and courier working with a mysql database alright, but i want to use maildrop in order to be able to use quota. I don't see where i can configure courier-maildrop to

Re: mysql-server package not innodb ready?

2004-12-29 Thread Darryl Clarke
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 14:31:18 -0700, Nathan Zabaldo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I hope I am posting to the correct list for this question. > > I have recently apt-get'd dbmail-mysql from testing so I am running mysql > 4.022. It has not been compiles with

mysql-server package not innodb ready?

2004-12-29 Thread Nathan Zabaldo
Hello, I hope I am posting to the correct list for this question. I have recently apt-get'd dbmail-mysql from testing so I am running mysql 4.022. It has not been compiles with innodb support and I need it. Is there a way to enable innodb support after installing the mysql-server pa

Re: Courier-imap Mysql 4.x

2004-12-29 Thread Darryl Clarke
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:11:22 -0300, Guilherme B. Viebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi all, > > Merry Christmas and a happy new year... > > I´m using sarge, and my courier-imap don´t work with Mysql 4.x, but, > perfectly with 3.x > > I need to kn

Courier-imap Mysql 4.x

2004-12-29 Thread Guilherme B. Viebig
Hi all,   Merry Christmas and a happy new year...    I´m using sarge, and my courier-imap don´t work with Mysql 4.x, but, perfectly with 3.x   I need to know if there is a way to use mysql 3.23.xx in my sarge, or a updated courier-imap that supports mysql 4.x.   Thank you in advance

[SOLVED] Re: openoffice, mysql, odbc

2004-12-15 Thread Matt Price
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 04:35:13PM -0500, Matt Price wrote: > hi folks, > > after a certain amount of pain and suffering I have achieved the > following: > > OOo 1.1.3 works fine. > MySQL works fine > unixODBC connects to MySQL without trouble using isql > Within O

openoffice, mysql, odbc

2004-12-15 Thread Matt Price
hi folks, after a certain amount of pain and suffering I have achieved the following: OOo 1.1.3 works fine. MySQL works fine unixODBC connects to MySQL without trouble using isql Within OOo, odbc reads mysql tables perfectly, and I can make forms using the forms autopilot. but, I can't

Re: difficulty starting mysql server

2004-12-02 Thread bcml
> $ mysqld_safe --user=mysql & > [1] 687 > $ Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql > /usr/bin/mysqld_safe: line 300: /var/log/mysql/mysql.err: Permission > denied > /usr/bin/mysqld_safe: line 1: /var/log/mysql/mysql.err: Permission denied > tee:

Re: difficulty starting mysql server

2004-12-01 Thread rb
Jacob S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 01 Dec 2004 17:25:31 -0500 > rb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I installed mysql-server 4.0.17 a while ago (Unstable). > > This part makes me assume you installed it via apt-get, using the deb > from Uns

Re: difficulty starting mysql server

2004-12-01 Thread Jacob S
On 01 Dec 2004 17:25:31 -0500 rb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I installed mysql-server 4.0.17 a while ago (Unstable). This part makes me assume you installed it via apt-get, using the deb from Unstable's mirrors. Is that right? > When I try to start the server, I

difficulty starting mysql server

2004-12-01 Thread rb
I installed mysql-server 4.0.17 a while ago (Unstable). When I try to start the server, I get the following: $ mysqld_safe --user=mysql & [1] 687 $ Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql /usr/bin/mysqld_safe: line 300: /var/log/mysql/mysql.err: Permission denied /usr

RE: snort logging in mysql on Debian!

2004-11-21 Thread NabilM
It's a bug in 'dpkg-reconfigure snort-mysql' for woody. I installed Sarge and its works in it. Thanks for the help. -Nabil. -Original Message- From: Mike Mestnik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 5:58 PM To: Nabil MALIK / KTEFH - OTAS; [

Re: mysql import database question

2004-11-17 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 11:08:23AM -0800, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > I am totally new to mysql so please forgive me if this question has a > very simple solution. > > Someone sent me a mysql database file dumped from phpmyadmin. I have > installed and configured phpmyadmin to conne

mysql import database question

2004-11-17 Thread Curtis Vaughan
I am totally new to mysql so please forgive me if this question has a very simple solution. Someone sent me a mysql database file dumped from phpmyadmin. I have installed and configured phpmyadmin to connect to the mysql server. Using phpmyadmin I created a database, but how do I now import

Re: snort logging in mysql on Debian!

2004-11-17 Thread Mike Mestnik
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Fellows, > > Can you guide me or point me to some document(s) that would allow me to /usr/share/doc// http://localhost/doc/ > setup snort/acid on Debian. I am especially interested on running snort > and acid (apache/mysql etc) on the same

snort logging in mysql on Debian!

2004-11-17 Thread NabilM
Fellows, Can you guide me or point me to some document(s) that would allow me to setup snort/acid on Debian. I am especially interested on running snort and acid (apache/mysql etc) on the same machine. If you have time, here is the problem that I am facing... I am not able to log into mysql. I

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-16 Thread Chris Lale
On Tue, 2004-11-16 at 01:31, Brian Nelson wrote: > I don't promote aptitude in particular; I just discourage the use of > apt-get, especially for newbies. I don't think aptitude is a > particularly good choice for newbies since its interface can be as > vexing as dselect's at times. Still, it's

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-16 Thread Brian Nelson
On Tue, Nov 16, 2004 at 12:14:42AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 01:54:19PM +, Brian Nelson wrote: > > What dpkg does is broken. It has no business storing that stuff in the > > status file. > > Now you're echoing Colin Watson. And we all know what a poor source of wi

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-16 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 01:54:19PM +, Brian Nelson wrote: > What dpkg does is broken. It has no business storing that stuff in the > status file. Now you're echoing Colin Watson. WHY is it that it has no business storing that information in the status file? A package's installation state sh

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Wayne Topa
Steve Lamb([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Marc Wilson wrote: > >Try it... put a package on hold with the normal tools (dpkg, dselect), then > > Hrm, works fine here. Of course it helps to note that my "normal > tools" is aptitude. If one is using aptitude why would one b

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Brian Nelson
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 11:26:07AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 11:14:54AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > So, is the consensus to stick with 'apt'? Or at least to choose one and > > stick with that and not to mix apt and aptitude (it sounds to me as though > > Marc is sa

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Brian Nelson
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 11:52:19AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 07:21:34PM +, Chris Lale wrote: > > On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 16:00, Jon Dowland wrote: > > > On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:21:54 + (GMT), Thomas Adam > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I can see no adv

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Chris Lale
On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 20:04, Wim De Smet wrote: > On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:26:07 -0800, Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 11:14:54AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > What *dpkg* does is the standard. If aptitude doesn't honor it, it's > > broken. If aptitude

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 09:04:34PM +0100, Wim De Smet wrote: > This is true, but if you only use aptitude it's a minor problem (eg. > you can probably not even set a package on hold without the curses > interface). Oh? Try reading aptitude's man page. The question isn't whether aptitude is featu

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Steve Lamb
Wim De Smet wrote: This is true, but if you only use aptitude it's a minor problem (eg. you can probably not even set a package on hold without the curses interface). [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~} aptitude --help aptitude 0.2.15.8 Usage: aptitude [-S fname] [-u|-i] aptitude [options] ... Actions (

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 21:04 +0100, Wim De Smet wrote: --snip-- > I tried it with dselect, but the first thing dselect did was select a > bunch of packages I didn't want. Does dselect have yet another status > list? In any case, I had the same behaviour (about). Somebody should > patch this one day.

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Wim De Smet
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:26:07 -0800, Marc Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 11:14:54AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > So, is the consensus to stick with 'apt'? Or at least to choose one and > > stick with that and not to mix apt and aptitude (it sounds to me as though

Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?

2004-11-15 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 11:49:33AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > And no, most of what it can do, you can do from the command line or the > ncurses interface. s/or the ncurses interface// That's what I get for not re-reading before saving. -- Marc Wilson | Paranoids are people, too; they hav

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 07:21:34PM +, Chris Lale wrote: > On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 16:00, Jon Dowland wrote: > > On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:21:54 + (GMT), Thomas Adam > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I can see no advantages to using aptitude over apt-get. > > > > If I'm not mistaken, d-i

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Alex Malinovich
On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 11:29 -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Marc Wilson wrote: > > Try it... put a package on hold with the normal tools (dpkg, dselect), then > > Hrm, works fine here. Of course it helps to note that my "normal tools" > is aptitude. If one is using aptitude why would one be usi

Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?

2004-11-15 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 11:37:58PM +, Brian Nelson wrote: > On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 10:33:32PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > > It ignores the status file in favor of its own re-implementation of it. > > That's not really a problem, other than #137771, which I assume will be > fixed some day. Fi

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Steve Lamb
Marc Wilson wrote: Try it... put a package on hold with the normal tools (dpkg, dselect), then Hrm, works fine here. Of course it helps to note that my "normal tools" is aptitude. If one is using aptitude why would one be using dselect? dpkg I can see when installing third party applicatio

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 11:14:54AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So, is the consensus to stick with 'apt'? Or at least to choose one and > stick with that and not to mix apt and aptitude (it sounds to me as though > Marc is saying if you mix you'll end up with 2 out of date lists of what > has/

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Chris Lale
On Mon, 2004-11-15 at 16:00, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:21:54 + (GMT), Thomas Adam > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I can see no advantages to using aptitude over apt-get. > > If I'm not mistaken, d-i uses aptitude (or maybe its a cut-down fork > or something). If a user in

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Thomas Adam
--- Jon Dowland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:21:54 + (GMT), Thomas Adam > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I can see no advantages to using aptitude over apt-get. > > If I'm not mistaken, d-i uses aptitude (or maybe its a cut-down fork > or something). If a user inst

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:21:54 + (GMT), Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I can see no advantages to using aptitude over apt-get. If I'm not mistaken, d-i uses aptitude (or maybe its a cut-down fork or something). If a user installs using the new d-i, opts for manual package configuratio

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Steve Lamb
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, is the consensus to stick with 'apt'? Or at least to choose one and stick with that and not to mix apt and aptitude (it sounds to me as though Marc is saying if you mix you'll end up with 2 out of date lists of what has/hasn't been inst-ed) I say choose one and stic

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Wim De Smet
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 11:14:54 - (GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, is the consensus to stick with 'apt'? Or at least to choose one and > stick with that and not to mix apt and aptitude (it sounds to me as though > Marc is saying if you mix you'll end up with 2 out of date

Re: apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread Thomas Adam
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ Another top-poster. Don't do it, please ] > So, is the consensus to stick with 'apt'? Or at least to choose one and > stick with that and not to mix apt and aptitude (it sounds to me as > though > Marc is saying if you mix you'll end up with 2 out of date lists of

apt .v. aptitude (was Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?)

2004-11-15 Thread linux
So, is the consensus to stick with 'apt'? Or at least to choose one and stick with that and not to mix apt and aptitude (it sounds to me as though Marc is saying if you mix you'll end up with 2 out of date lists of what has/hasn't been inst-ed) Cheers, Michael >> > Aptitude shouldn't be used unti

Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?

2004-11-14 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 10:33:32PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 01:43:38PM +, Brian Nelson wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 11:36:00AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 01:12:47AM +, Brian Nelson wrote: > > > > Aptitude does an OK job in this r

Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?

2004-11-14 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 01:43:38PM +, Brian Nelson wrote: > On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 11:36:00AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 01:12:47AM +, Brian Nelson wrote: > > > Aptitude does an OK job in this respect. It doesn't make conflict > > > resolution completely obvious

Re: mysql-server dependency

2004-11-14 Thread David Garamond
Marc Wilson wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 09:48:53PM +0700, David Garamond wrote: Why does the mysql-server package depend on mailx? I don't see something like this on Redhat's package, for example. Because of the checks for corrupt database tables that the initscript for it make

Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?

2004-11-14 Thread Alan Chandler
On Sunday 14 November 2004 19:36, Marc Wilson wrote: > Aptitude shouldn't be used until its fundamental breakages are resolved. What sort of statement is that? I use aptitude all the time - I can't see anything broken with it. -- Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] First they ignore you, then the

Re: how to remove exim4 without removing mysql-server?

2004-11-14 Thread Brian Nelson
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 11:36:00AM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote: > On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 01:12:47AM +, Brian Nelson wrote: > > Aptitude does an OK job in this respect. It doesn't make conflict > > resolution completely obvious, but the information is there. > > Aptitude shouldn't be used until

Re: mysql-server dependency

2004-11-14 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Nov 14, 2004 at 09:48:53PM +0700, David Garamond wrote: > Why does the mysql-server package depend on mailx? I don't see something > like this on Redhat's package, for example. Because of the checks for corrupt database tables that the initscript for it makes on every st

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