Re: Moving final mailman lists over to discourse

2022-10-30 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 at 18:45, Anastasios Lisgaras via desktop-devel-list < desktop-devel-list@gnome.org> wrote: > On 10/20/22 20:48, Andre Klapper via desktop-devel-list wrote: > > On Thu, 2022-09-29 at 16:48 +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > > Are there plans to update the https://mail.gnome.org

Re: Is libgd still a thing?

2021-06-14 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
Looking at the gnome-world moduleset, the following modules are still using libgd: - nautilus - evince - totem - gnome-photos - gedit Archiving libgd will likely have to wait, considering that all of these are core GNOME applications. Ciao, Emmanuele. On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 at 17:19, Andre

Re: Can we enforce beta release for the freeze

2021-02-23 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Mon, 22 Feb 2021 at 00:20, Shaun McCance wrote: > What I want is a discussion on how we can ensure beta releases happen in > the future. For example, can we do more to automate releases? Or (again, > for example), could we have an automated script that emails this list with > modules missing

Re: Let's improve our communication: Discourse

2020-09-29 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 at 10:25, Milan Crha via desktop-devel-list < desktop-devel-list@gnome.org> wrote: > On Fri, 2020-09-25 at 14:33 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > and make contributing to GNOME more attractive to newcomers. > > Hi, > do you think the newcomers do not know how the

New GNOME versioning scheme

2020-09-16 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
Hi all; This email is cross-posted to Discourse: https://discourse.gnome.org/t/new-gnome-versioning-scheme/4235 Please, use Discourse to ask further questions or clarifications. After various off-line/in person talks, last year I started [a discussion][0] on Discourse about the existing

Re: Regarding behaviour of Gnome and Fedora members

2020-06-12 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Fri, 12 Jun 2020 at 13:30, Ty Young via desktop-devel-list < desktop-devel-list@gnome.org> wrote: > ...sorry, just read the xkcd link. That, IMO, does indeed violates > GNOME's Code of Conduct. There sure are a lot of people violating their > own project's inclusion and community standards...

Re: Is any GNOME project using Mapbox legacy classic tiles with the GNOME API key?

2020-06-08 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
Could it be caused by users of Maps on some long term support Linux distributions, like Ubuntu 16.04/18.04, or RHEL7/8? Ciao, Emmanuele. On Mon, 8 Jun 2020 at 22:00, Marcus Lundblad via desktop-devel-list < desktop-devel-list@gnome.org> wrote: > Hi! > > As Mapbox has deprecated the old classic

Re: How to detect a gtk desktop programmatically

2020-04-30 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Thu, 30 Apr 2020 at 17:23, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > I would worry about the future, though. I'm skeptical that updating to > GTK 4 will ever be possible (due to the removal of the foreign drawing > API that allows non-GTK apps to render boxes and buttons and such using > the GTK theme). So

Moving gdk-pixbuf-xlib out of gdk-pixbuf

2019-11-26 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
Hi all; tl;dr: the gdk-pixbuf-xlib deprecated shared library now lives in its own, archived repository available at: https://gitlab.gnome.org/Archive/gdk-pixbuf-xlib If you're explicitly enabling X11 support in gdk-pixbuf in your builds and/or packages and distributing the additional

Re: Maintainers should announce build-related changes in their modules

2019-09-13 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 22:40, Philip Withnall wrote: > On Thu, 2019-09-12 at 19:14 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Sep, 2019 at 19:08, Philip Withnall > wrote: > > That sounds like something people are going to forget to do. Would it be > possible to use computers to automate this?

Re: Maintainers should announce build-related changes in their modules

2019-09-13 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 at 23:49, Michael Gratton wrote: > On Thu, 12 Sep, 2019 at 22:39, Philip Withnall > wrote: > > On Thu, 2019-09-12 at 19:14 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > >> On Thu, 12 Sep, 2019 at 19:08, Philip Withnall > >> wrote: > >>> That sounds like something people are going to

Maintainers should announce build-related changes in their modules

2019-09-12 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
Hi all; the 3.34 release is out of the door, but before we go into the 3.35 development cycle, the release team would like to kindly ask **all** GNOME maintainers to send an email to release-t...@gnome.org (and possibly Cc: distributor-l...@gnome.org

Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-04-26 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Fri, 26 Apr 2019 at 17:12, wrote: > > I'm a little surprised that nobody has yet mentioned the elephant in > the room. The definition of "git" is not very inclusive: > What did I say, upthread, about falling into the "slippery slope" fallacy, and sticking to the topic of discussion? Do we

Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-04-25 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
. >> >> Regards, >> Chris >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 10:12 AM, Pat Suwalski wrote: >> >> On 2019-04-25 9:58 a.m., Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list wrote: >> >> If you cannot maintain even a semblance of a civil discourse, the door is >&g

Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

2019-04-25 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 14:54, Pat Suwalski wrote: > On 2019-04-25 6:43 a.m., Bastien Nocera wrote: > > It's non-gender neutral, which was mentioned earlier in the thread. > > > > See the master/maiden section of: > > >

Re: I believe we should reconsider our sys-tray removal

2019-03-25 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 18:27, Florian Müllner wrote: > On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 6:50 PM Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > > > > You cut the part where I said the appindicator implementation should be > changed. :-) > > I thought you were referring to the client library, not the underlying > spec :-) >

Re: I believe we should reconsider our sys-tray removal

2019-03-25 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 17:34, Florian Müllner wrote: > On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 5:36 PM Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list > wrote: > > > > If the answer to status icons is to adopt/adapt the appindicator API, > I'm also fine with that; > > I'm not. The Statu

Re: I believe we should reconsider our sys-tray removal

2019-03-25 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 16:29, Will Thompson wrote: > On the other hand: this API under its various names is already > widely-supported both by (non-GNOME) apps, and by widely-used desktop > environments – a virtuous cycle. In particular, several third-party, > non-free apps like Dropbox which

Re: I believe we should reconsider our sys-tray removal

2019-03-25 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 16:15, wrote: The dash seems like it might be a safer place to put things > than allowing applications to clutter the precious top bar. > Like every other solution for placing stuff into the overview, this fails to take into account menus created by status icons; the

Re: I believe we should reconsider our sys-tray removal

2019-03-25 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 14:29, Pat Suwalski wrote: > On 2019-03-25 7:19 a.m., Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list wrote: > > Which would achieve nothing except, once again, shoving icons and menus > > into one of the most important pieces of screen real estate we have just &

Re: I believe we should reconsider our sys-tray removal

2019-03-25 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 10:39, Daniel Mustieles García via desktop-devel-list wrote: > Can't GtkStatusIcon be modified to show icons in the top bar? > No. GtkStatusIcon encodes the XEMBED-based tray icon specification; this means that the application code is responsible for: - sending icon

Re: What is the status of developer.gnome.org and help.gnome.org?

2019-02-20 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 17:27, Petr Kovar wrote: > > There's also a group of people wanting to do something else for the > > developer site. I went to some of their meetings, but haven't had time > > to keep up. I don't know their status. > > Same here. I think if the developer site group

Re: What is the status of developer.gnome.org and help.gnome.org?

2019-02-15 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
Hi Joanne; the switch to Meson for various libraries broke the expectations of library-web, which is used to populate developer.gnome.org. The scripts expect the HTML for the API reference to be in the release tarballs, but that’s not the case for Meson-generated dist archives. GTK and GLib use

Re: GNOME 3.32 milestone review

2019-01-30 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 at 09:20, Allan Day via desktop-devel-list < desktop-devel-list@gnome.org> wrote: > Carlos Soriano wrote: > ... > > gnome-screenshot, retire app menu - Part of the GNOME initiative to > remove app menus. There is a MR, needs some review. Deadline 4th February, > UI freeze. >

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-28 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 11:40, Debarshi Ray wrote: > On Sun, Jan 27, 2019 at 12:13:26PM +, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > > Again, not a huge deal; sure, Documents is actually useful to navigate > > through the Google Drive contents???the Drive web UX has become > shockingly > > bad over the years,

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-27 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 10:27, Debarshi Ray wrote: > The tl;dr here is that a lot of people care about political arguments > but nobody shows up to bear the burden of dealing with the code. > "Political" in the sense that you're not maintaining a leaf node in the dependency graph, that can come

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-27 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 09:24, Debarshi Ray wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 11:00:58AM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > I don't think that feature requests should be treated on the same level > > as existing, merged, features > > I can't change my theme, I can't change my fonts, no minimize

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-23 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 at 18:36, Debarshi Ray wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 02:49:55PM +0000, Emmanuele Bassi via > desktop-devel-list wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 at 14:21, Allan Day wrote: > > > If apps could provide their own keys that would certainly change the &g

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-23 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 at 17:55, wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 9:03 AM, Bastien Nocera > wrote: > > It is what is happening in GNOME Online Accounts in general. Pocket is > > disabled in Fedora 29, and there's a good chance that the mail > > configuration bits will be disabled in Fedora 30. > >

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-23 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 at 16:41, Allan Day wrote: > Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > ... > >> > This is because we never specified a way to get third party keys > stored inside GOA as part of a process to get third party modules to it. > >> > >> If apps could provide their own keys that would certainly

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-23 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 at 14:21, Allan Day wrote: > [Responding selectively, this thread is getting long.] > > Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > ... > >> The main factor has always been about how we handle identity. If we > >> give online accounts access to 3rd party apps, we're giving them > >> access to

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-23 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 at 12:26, Allan Day wrote: > Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > ... > >> This approach isn't new, and you can read more detail here: > >> https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeOnlineAccounts/Goals > >> > > > > I know the rationale. I never particularly agreed with it, because it > felt

Re: GNOME Online Accounts 3.34 won't have documents support

2019-01-23 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 at 16:32, wrote: > We have a rule though: the account types exposed in > gnome-online-accounts must be used by at least one core application. > It's a good rule because it doesn't make sense to have settings in > control-center for apps that aren't installed by default. So

Re: Documents and core apps

2019-01-17 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 at 16:59, wrote: > Release and design teams also don't want redundant apps in core, and > there is interest in somewhat reducing the number of apps in core. We > had been planning for several years to remove eog (obsoleted by > gnome-photos and to remove evince with

Re: GNOME Mastodon Instance?

2018-10-31 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 at 10:27, Alexandre Franke wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 3:20 PM Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list > wrote: > > Just to be clearer: once the GNOME Mastodon instance gets into a > federation, it'll need somebody to moderate > > the graph to bloc

Re: This video is dedicated to all of you

2018-10-17 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 18:30, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Wed, 2018-10-17 at 19:24 +0200, Alberto Salvia Novella via desktop- > devel-list wrote: > > https://youtu.be/ > > How is this person still allowed to post on d-d-l? > Yes, can we please enable some moderation? Not only this stuff is

Re: GNOME Mastodon Instance?

2018-10-15 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
Just to be clearer: once the GNOME Mastodon instance gets into a federation, it'll need somebody to moderate the graph to block instances and users from other instances in the fediverse. I'm not (overly) worried about people with an @gnome.org address on the GNOME instance, and for those we do

Re: GNOME Mastodon Instance?

2018-10-15 Thread Emmanuele Bassi via desktop-devel-list
Hi Richard; I wouldn't be opposed to have a mastodon.gnome.org instance for GNOME foundation members, but I'm not entirely sure about the security/moderation side of things: who's going to moderate the instance? We have people moderating mailing lists and a some level of moderation on IRC, but