Re: Marco

2015-05-26 Thread Xan Lopez
This is terrible news. I remember fondly working with him on Epiphany many years ago. His patience and good character were instrumental in getting me started on this whole crazy business, as I'm sure it was the case for many others. He will be missed, and I'd humbly suggest the Foundation to dedic

Re: Privacy/Security Friends of GNOME campaign?

2012-12-19 Thread Xan Lopez
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > * Do we have something like HTTPS everywhere? This is also known as "HSTS"[1] (HTTP Strict Transport Security), and I would indeed love to have some time to implement it in Web. Some other things that would be nice to have: - EV-S

A brief note about recent API breaks in WebKitGTK+

2012-08-27 Thread Xan Lopez
Hi, just a few comments about recent API breaks that have bothered some people. - WebKitGTK+ (in its original form, *not* the WebKit2 stuff) is API stable. This means we won't willingly break its API. This means if the API breaks in a release it's not intentional, so asking us to notify in advanc

Re: Videos from GUADEC/clarification about GNOME on tablets

2012-08-10 Thread Xan Lopez
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Maciej Piechotka wrote: > 2. While I understand that mobile is new 'shiny' so far I am sceptical > of unified interfaces (and several other things from presentation like > pre-installed GNOME on tablet). I will stop here as it would be > pointless to complain a lot

Re: GNOME Goal Proposal: Port to GMenu

2012-05-07 Thread Xan Lopez
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Andrew Cowie wrote: > Is there a reference application doing this right? > > I ask this because Epiphany¹ has no menu, but does and a funky button > over on the right that, upon investigation, turns out to be a menu has > useful things like "add bookmark" ... but no

Re: 3.6 Feature: IBus/XKB integration

2012-04-25 Thread Xan Lopez
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: >> That's the part of the user base that answers to polls in Google+. > Right. That is why noone says "use those answers from Google+ > literally". It would be nice to find the way that would protect the > results from the "anti-geekness" arg

Re: 3.6 Feature: IBus/XKB integration

2012-04-25 Thread Xan Lopez
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Sergey Udaltsov wrote: > Could GNOME perform a real review on the XKB option groups - find out > which ones are used, which ones are not? Of course, it would be > difficult to eliminate the bias to geekness - but that's what GNOME > user base is. That's the part o

Re: 3.6 Feature: Initial setup

2012-04-24 Thread Xan Lopez
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Shaun McCance wrote: >> Flash might still be needed for some things, but youtube is not one of >> them. Its HTML5 version works just fine, so I see no reason to design >> that page with that option as default. > > Can't we self-host the videos? I'm not saying we ca

Re: 3.6 Feature: Initial setup

2012-04-24 Thread Xan Lopez
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > W dniu 24 kwietnia 2012 02:32 użytkownik Danielle Madeley > napisał: >> I sort of like the idea of a totally fresh GNOME session starting up >> with a Web and www.gnome.org/welcome/ in the browser, with lots of >> little YouTube videos. T

Re: Rules for design in Gnome

2012-04-24 Thread Xan Lopez
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Federico Mena Quintero wrote: > The design team IS NOT welcome to: > > * Second-guess maintainers or well-intentioned contributors. Surely the Design Team is also composed of well intentioned contributors that only want the best for Gnome and do not deserve this k

Re: Last GNOME 3.4 Blocker Report

2012-03-20 Thread Xan Lopez
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Andre Klapper wrote: > === > EPIPHANY > === > There are still references to the "GNOME web browser" on translations > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671424 > Would require string freeze breaks. After grepping this seems

Re: Epiphany now Linux-only (was: [epiphany] Require NetworkManager)

2011-06-24 Thread Xan Lopez
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Claudio Saavedra wrote: > Actually the dependence on NM is quite soft. We could just depend on > the NM service being there and if it's not just not use it. For a > bunch of macros that we use and theoretically shouldn't change often > we don't need to have a compi

Re: On the Interaction with the design team

2011-06-06 Thread Xan Lopez
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Dave Neary wrote: > To sum it all up, I believe the current dynamic of the design team is doing > damage to GNOME > as a community. I think what is really doing damage to the community is this kind of hyperbolic accusation around the design team that seems to be

Re: ctr-del to delete a file

2011-05-19 Thread Xan Lopez
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Xavier Claessens wrote: > Hello ddl, > > Looks like it is time to start flames on ddl, so let's start a new one: No, it's not. Please do not spam the list with your pet peeve bugs. Especially when there's already a bug filed in bugzilla, which is the right forum t

Re: 3.2: gjs/seed

2011-04-29 Thread Xan Lopez
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Colin Walters wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 3:26 AM, Xan Lopez wrote: > >> There's no particular reason for this, we just never got around to >> untangle them. If there's increased interest in having them as >>

Re: 3.2: gjs/seed

2011-04-21 Thread Xan Lopez
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Colin Walters wrote: > There are, however, nontrivial issues.  First is that actually in good > news on the gjs front, a standalone Spidermonkey release was just made > recently, and I have a patch ready to use it in gjs: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?i

Re: Fix gsettings path to use /org/gnome instead /apps

2011-03-24 Thread Xan Lopez
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Luca Ferretti wrote: > If you have no time to commit, I'll be glad to help you, just ask on irc > (elle.uca) or reply here. Looks good for epiphany too, thank you! Xan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-

Re: GNOME 3.2 ideas and plans

2011-03-22 Thread Xan Lopez
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > - There was a proposal by the epiphany team to look at epiphany / > shell integration. We are working on defining a roadmap for 3.2 and beyond these days, but it seems clear to me that for 3.2 we'll at least try to do: - Some (probably co

Re: GNOME 3.0 Blocker Report for week 03

2011-01-18 Thread Xan Lopez
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:09 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: > epiphany: Port Epiphany to GtkApplication > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=637334 Hmm, how is this a blocker? > > epiphany: Port EphyNetMonitor to GDBus > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=624421 Or this one? Certain

Re: 2.91.5 status

2011-01-11 Thread Xan Lopez
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:18 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Vincent Untz wrote: > >> I haven't tested anything at runtime, though, so maybe it's a >> complete disaster ;-) We'll see tomorrow. > > Issues I have noticed so far: > > - all webkit apps crash for me at s

Re: Re: gnome-panel & gnome-applets?

2010-12-28 Thread Xan Lopez
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 11:07 PM, Luca Ferretti wrote: >> > Sergey, who sometimes prefers to look backwards rather than forward >> >> no problem with that. you can maintain the old user experience for >> yourself and never upgrade. > > "and snarkyness is never going to get you anything, mmkay? (ci

Re: GNOME 2.91.4 build issues

2010-12-22 Thread Xan Lopez
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Vincent Untz wrote: > Hi, > > I've been trying to build GNMOE 2.91.4 from tarballs, and it's not > looking good at all :-) > > Matthias already mentioned some breakages caused by GTK+ 2.91.7, but > it's not just that. > > Here are the tarballs that I have and that

Re: libpeas, multiple languages, toggle references

2010-08-06 Thread Xan Lopez
On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Owen Taylor wrote: > So, do we really want to promote this as the way we do plugins in GNOME? > Language neutrality for plugins seems nice, but is a bit of a trap. This is precisely the reason why we removed Python support when we added the Javascript support for

Re: Call to maintainers: GNOME 2.31 to ship GTK 2.90

2010-08-03 Thread Xan Lopez
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Josselin Mouette wrote: > We talked about it today on #debian-devel, and it turns out there is a > very serious problem that is fixed by symbol versioning in GTK+. > > $ objdump -p /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so > [snip] >  NEEDED      libgtk-x11-2.0.so.

Re: Modulesets Reorganization

2010-06-06 Thread Xan Lopez
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Johannes Schmid wrote: > Hi! > (...) Hey, before addressing any specific point I just want to say that I pretty much agree with the spirit of the Release Team's proposal, if not with all its details, and that I'd rather see us engage in a bit of too much destruc

Re: Updated webkit version to 1.1.21

2010-02-10 Thread Xan Lopez
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le mercredi 10 février 2010, à 11:56 +0100, Luca Ferretti a écrit : >> I've just updated WebKitGtk required version here [1] and in jhbuild >> moduleset for 2.30. >> >> Version 1.1.21 is required by Epiphany. > > Thanks. Btw, I guess it's fine

Re: gconf key for the equivalent of F7?

2009-10-22 Thread Xan Lopez
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:31 PM, Shaun McCance wrote: > Well, right.  That's why I mentioned XSettings, which can > then be accessed with the GtkSettings API.  In fact, even > after GSettings/dconf, I think it would make sense to have > an XSetting, since it can be picked up by other toolkits > as

Re: gconf key for the equivalent of F7?

2009-10-22 Thread Xan Lopez
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 7:02 PM, Shaun McCance wrote: > On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 09:25 -0400, Willie Walker wrote: >> Hi All: >> >> There is a convention of having the user press F7 to enable caret >> browsing.  For example, when running Firefox, one can press F7 to >> enable the caret in the documen

Re: Packages with no changelogs

2009-09-26 Thread Xan Lopez
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > Xan Lopez wrote: >> 2009/9/26 Josselin Mouette : >>> Le samedi 26 septembre 2009 à 12:27 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : >>>> on the serious side: auto-generation of ChangeLogs is all fine and >>

Re: Packages with no changelogs

2009-09-26 Thread Xan Lopez
2009/9/26 Josselin Mouette : > Le samedi 26 septembre 2009 à 12:27 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit : >> on the serious side: auto-generation of ChangeLogs is all fine and >> dandy, but distribution packagers should care about the NEWS files being >> correct[0]; a NEWS file is usually much more reada

Epiphany branched for 2.28

2009-09-18 Thread Xan Lopez
Epiphany is branched for 2.28, the branch name is "gnome-2-28". Cheers, Xan ___ desktop-devel-list mailing list desktop-devel-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list

Re: New module proposal: tracker

2009-08-18 Thread Xan Lopez
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Maciej Piechotka wrote: >> Epiphany does not share its metadata with anyone else nor can you cross >> query it >> > > I believe that gnome do and/or deskbar do it quite well w/out tracker. No, they have to go and manually parse the private file epiphany uses inter

Re: New module proposal: tracker

2009-08-18 Thread Xan Lopez
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 18.08.09 18:55, Xan Lopez (x...@gnome.org) wrote: > >> > If tracker-store is not useful on its own and currently not used by >> > anything else in GNOME, does it really make sense to push it into >>

Re: New module proposal: tracker

2009-08-18 Thread Xan Lopez
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> It can be used directly by applications that feed it data through an >> API. Zeitgeist is an example, another could be bookmarks/history >> storage in Epiphany. > > I might not be fully up to date on all these things, but has Zeitgeist >

Re: New module proposal: tracker

2009-08-18 Thread Xan Lopez
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Maciej Piechotka wrote: >> It can be used directly by applications that feed it data through an >> API. Zeitgeist is an example, another could be bookmarks/history >> storage in Epiphany. >> >> Xan > > Hmm. Is it one-in-all database? Then: > - How you keep it out of

Re: New module proposal: tracker

2009-08-18 Thread Xan Lopez
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 18.08.09 11:18, Jamie McCracken (jamie.mccr...@googlemail.com) wrote: > >> >> The indexer part is optional >> >> The main part tracker-store is just a database with querying and is to >> be used by zeitgeist >> >> If the consensus

Re: WebKitGTK+ as an external dependency

2009-07-19 Thread Xan Lopez
Hi all, On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > Hey Will. > > In my opinion, having more people from the WebKit internals side > certainly couldn't hurt. :-) But I'll leave your question to Xan. First of all, sorry for the late reply, I was away on Paris last week. Certainly ha

Re: New Module Proposal. libseed

2009-05-14 Thread Xan Lopez
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Havoc Pennington wrote: > If we say we have to not only support spidermonkey and JSC, but any > future hypothetical JS implementation, then we're really committing to > not only not using language extensions, but _never_ using or creating > extensions. Basically ha

Re: New Module Proposal. libseed

2009-05-14 Thread Xan Lopez
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Havoc Pennington wrote: >> So perhaps it would be a good idea to just stick to a JS defined in >> some standard widely used for all GNOME code, in order to avoid future >> headaches, and consider other languages with real self-extension >> capabilities if we are re

Re: New Module Proposal. libseed

2009-05-14 Thread Xan Lopez
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Owen Taylor wrote: > Spidermonkey: Mature, good API for extensibility. Nice language >   extensions. (JS 1.7.) Mostly packaged as part of xulrunner, which is >   a problem. Maintained by an organization that has a thorough >   commitment to open source. (That doesn

Re: New Module Proposal. libseed

2009-05-13 Thread Xan Lopez
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Murray Cumming wrote: > Quite apart from choosing which 1 of 2 candidate engines we should > choose, something seems very wrong if we have to maintain a runtime > engine for a programming language that we want to use. It's not > something we do for any other progra

Re: New Module Proposal. libseed

2009-05-13 Thread Xan Lopez
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > +1 from me. Robert has been very responsive and his team of minions > have made changes whenever I've asked. > > I think we must have both engines. The JS optimization battle between > Mozilla and Apple is just now heating up; we cannot wa

Re: New Module Proposal. libseed

2009-05-12 Thread Xan Lopez
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Robert Carr wrote: >> Can you commit to put in the few days work to make a patch for >> gnome-shell to use libseed? I think that makes it easy for the >> gnome-shell developers to go to libseed >> > > Yes I can do this (and have been planning to) and put it in a br

Re: WebKitGTK+ as an external dependency

2009-05-06 Thread Xan Lopez
On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Joanmarie Diggs wrote: > Right now, my answer is "gosh, I sure hope so." :-) Admittedly, not as > good as a "heck yes!", but better than "no." > > Where things stand as of today is that WebKit needs quite a bit of work > to ready as far as a11y is concerned. HOWEVER

Re: WebKitGTK+ as an external dependency

2009-05-04 Thread Xan Lopez
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Alp Toker wrote: >> I'd like to end the email by requesting feedback from all the module >> maintainers that are considering a switch to WebKitGTK+, in light of >> the idea proposed by the Release Team of making a general switch from >> gecko to webkit in all module

WebKitGTK+ as an external dependency

2009-05-04 Thread Xan Lopez
Hello, the aim of the Epiphany team is to make 2.28 our first WebKit release. For this to happen we need to replace our external dependency on Gecko with WebKitGTK+, so consider this a request to do so. In the post 2.26 module decision discussion (see http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-