quote who=Garrett LeSage
I hope sharing all this has provided a bit of insight and might help guide
the future direction of the applet a bit.
I hope you guys figure out a way to be able to do these kinds of changes out
in the commons in future. The tight schedule, community is hard, let's go
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 19:23 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On 10/3/07, Kjartan Maraas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All this should just come from libc. I don't think we should do anything
special here at all. I think all the needed data is available in the
locale data.
That is where
ons, 03.10.2007 kl. 19.23 -0400, skrev Matthias Clasen:
On 10/3/07, Kjartan Maraas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All this should just come from libc. I don't think we should do anything
special here at all. I think all the needed data is available in the
locale data.
That is where
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 14:55 +0100, Ross Burton wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 09:41 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
New d-d-l rule: no one gets to say 'it is useful' without explaining
their use case :)
Luis (I believe you that you use it, but I can't for the life of me
figure out why)
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 12:28 -0400, Hubert Figuiere wrote:
But then you have to make sure week start right. Some consider week 1
starting January 1st (eventually being less than 7 days), some consider
week 1 starting the first Sunday or Monday (oh another exception) of
January. This is a major
ons, 03.10.2007 kl. 12.28 -0400, skrev Hubert Figuiere:
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 14:55 +0100, Ross Burton wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 09:41 -0400, Luis Villa wrote:
New d-d-l rule: no one gets to say 'it is useful' without explaining
their use case :)
Luis (I believe you that you
On 10/3/07, Kjartan Maraas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All this should just come from libc. I don't think we should do anything
special here at all. I think all the needed data is available in the
locale data.
That is where GtkCalendar takes it from. Unfortunately, the
week-start-data in glibc
On 9/25/07, Garrett LeSage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The screenshot of the calendar does not show the week number (it's useless
clutter, relaly). I think the week number is there in the released versoin
due to the way the GtkCalendar widget works.
Those can (and should be) be turned off. The
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 09:20 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
The screenshot of the calendar does not show the week number (it's useless
clutter, relaly). I think the week number is there in the released versoin
due to the way the GtkCalendar widget works.
Those can (and should be) be turned
2007-09-25 klockan 15:33 skrev Ross Burton:
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 09:20 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
The screenshot of the calendar does not show the week number (it's useless
clutter, relaly). I think the week number is there in the released
versoin
due to the way the GtkCalendar
On 9/25/07, Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 09:20 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
The screenshot of the calendar does not show the week number (it's useless
clutter, relaly). I think the week number is there in the released
versoin
due to the way the
Le mardi 25 septembre 2007, à 09:20 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
On 9/25/07, Garrett LeSage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The screenshot of the calendar does not show the week number (it's useless
clutter, relaly). I think the week number is there in the released versoin
due to the way
Luis Villa skrev:
On 9/25/07, Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 09:20 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
The screenshot of the calendar does not show the week number (it's
useless
clutter, relaly). I think the week number is there in the released
versoin
due
Le mardi 25 septembre 2007, à 15:55 +0200, Richard Hult a écrit :
Luis Villa skrev:
On 9/25/07, Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 09:20 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
The screenshot of the calendar does not show the week number (it's
useless
clutter,
Le mardi 25 septembre 2007, à 09:20 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
On 9/25/07, Garrett LeSage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The screenshot of the calendar does not show the week number (it's useless
clutter, relaly). I think the week number is there in the released versoin
due to the way
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 16:02 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
Days with appointments/birthdays/etc are bold in the calendar. There
were some bug reports suggesting changes to make this more visible, or
to improve the use of the calendar, but this implies improving
GtkCalendar, or using something
Le mardi 25 septembre 2007, à 15:09 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 16:02 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
Days with appointments/birthdays/etc are bold in the calendar. There
were some bug reports suggesting changes to make this more visible, or
to improve the use of the
Oops, I forgot to reply to the second part.
Days with appointments/birthdays/etc are bold in the calendar.
Now that we have the new tooltips are we able to have a tooltip when
the cursor is over the emboldened date to say why that date is
special?
iain
On 9/25/07, Iain * [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oops, I forgot to reply to the second part.
Days with appointments/birthdays/etc are bold in the calendar.
Now that we have the new tooltips are we able to have a tooltip when
the cursor is over the emboldened date to say why that date is
New d-d-l rule: no one gets to say 'it is useful' without explaining
their use case :)
Luis (I believe you that you use it, but I can't for the life of me
figure out why)
I use week number because everyone I deal with in Finland has phone calls
meetings week 37 and the like for some
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 16:22 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
Vincent, have you tried also looking at libjana widget set[1]? since the
clock uses e-d-s as a source it should be interesting to reuse those
widgets as well.
I've been thinking about this when reading the blog posts, but that's
On Sep 24, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
Yeah, the overall size of the thing is a concern. Maybe that is a
reason why the
Novell code has options to turn the map and the location list off,
individually.
Calvin, have you had complaints about the popup being too large ?
I
I am still unsure as to why there even needs to be a concept of system
time. System time should just be UTC, surely.
If anonymous things like GDM need a local time to present to the user,
then we should point it at a configurable user profile. This could serve
for font settings etc., too.
On
On 9/25/07, Alex Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am still unsure as to why there even needs to be a concept of system
time. System time should just be UTC, surely.
If anonymous things like GDM need a local time to present to the user, then
we should point it at a configurable user
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 00:34 +0200, Carlos Garnacho wrote:
Hi!,
On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 12:23 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
Since everybody is making proposals for 2.22, here is my contribution:
we should merge the clock applet with the intlclock that Novell has written.
David and I
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 13:39 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
Sure, but that doesn't solve the problem how you get every random
piece of software to pick up the newly chosen timezone. Unless you
write it to /etc/localtime.
GConf
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On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 18:56 +0100, Alex Jones wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 13:39 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
Sure, but that doesn't solve the problem how you get every random
piece of software to pick up the newly chosen timezone. Unless you
write it to /etc/localtime.
GConf
You're
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 16:01 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 18:56 +0100, Alex Jones wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 13:39 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
Sure, but that doesn't solve the problem how you get every random
piece of software to pick up the newly chosen
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 21:33 +0100, Alex Jones wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 16:01 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 18:56 +0100, Alex Jones wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 13:39 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
Sure, but that doesn't solve the problem how you get every
And I suppose you think that having all of those applications
strftime'ing with arbitrary formatting strings, and then writing those
strings to plain text log files is fine too.
I'd quite like to leave the 20th century behind, personally.
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 16:57 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote:
Le mardi 25 septembre 2007, à 22:13 +0100, Alex Jones a écrit :
And I suppose you think that having all of those applications strftime'ing
with arbitrary formatting strings, and then writing those strings to plain
text log files is fine too.
We can stop doing this, but that doesn't
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 22:13 +0100, Alex Jones wrote:
And I suppose you think that having all of those applications
strftime'ing with arbitrary formatting strings, and then writing those
strings to plain text log files is fine too.
[...]
I'd quite like to leave the 20th century behind,
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 17:22 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote:
I'm just saying that if you want the timezone stored elsewhere you need
to make sure that the C library will pick it up. Do you disagree?
↓
(FWIW, it's pretty unclear to me what you mean, but I think you're
trying to say that the
Literally seconds after I fire off my last email!
OK, so how about we do this then? That allows us to keep libc using the
main timezone, while having all the flexibility in the world to define
interesting zones and use them cleverly in various GNOME apps.
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 17:42 -0400,
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 17:42 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
We just figured out how to do per-session timezones at the glibc level:
(I wonder if this is GNU specific? man tzset suggests POSIX.)
you can set
TZ=:/home/alex/.localtime
in the session environment, and then update the symlink
On 9/25/07, David Zeuthen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 17:42 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
We just figured out how to do per-session timezones at the glibc level:
(I wonder if this is GNU specific? man tzset suggests POSIX.)
you can set
TZ=:/home/alex/.localtime
tir, 25.09.2007 kl. 09.41 -0400, skrev Luis Villa:
On 9/25/07, Ross Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 09:20 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
The screenshot of the calendar does not show the week number (it's
useless
clutter, relaly). I think the week number is
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 16:22 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
Le mardi 25 septembre 2007, à 15:09 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi a écrit :
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 16:02 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
Days with appointments/birthdays/etc are bold in the calendar. There
were some bug reports suggesting
Since everybody is making proposals for 2.22, here is my contribution:
we should merge the clock applet with the intlclock that Novell has written.
David and I have done some further work on it to support timezone
setting and weather information, the current status of which you can
see here:
Maybe an interesting timezones feature/setting would be useful in
GNOME, so that other apps can join in the fun of multi-timezone
awareness, with just one central place to configure it.
Or do you think such a feature should only pertain to a clock? Anyone
have any more use cases?
On Mon,
Nice stuff, it may need some graphic love tho, any particular reason
why the clock graphics are 50x50 and 36x36? It would be better to have
them 48x48 and 32x32 as our icons.
2007/9/24, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Since everybody is making proposals for 2.22, here is my contribution:
we
On 9/24/07, Alex Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe an interesting timezones feature/setting would be useful in GNOME,
so that other apps can join in the fun of multi-timezone awareness, with
just one central place to configure it.
Or do you think such a feature should only pertain to a
2007/9/24, Alex Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Maybe an interesting timezones feature/setting would be useful in GNOME,
so that other apps can join in the fun of multi-timezone awareness, with
just one central place to configure it.
Or do you think such a feature should only pertain to a clock?
On 9/24/07, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since everybody is making proposals for 2.22, here is my contribution:
we should merge the clock applet with the intlclock that Novell has written.
Why not include this in the existing gnome-panel module and avoid
having two competing clock
On 9/24/07, Jason D. Clinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/24/07, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since everybody is making proposals for 2.22, here is my contribution:
we should merge the clock applet with the intlclock that Novell has written.
Why not include this in the existing
On 9/24/07, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you read my mail carefully (merge), that is exactly what is being
proposed here.
Two clock applets makes no sense at all, which is why we did not ship
the intlclock in F8.
Sorry, I thought you were asking for module proposal acceptance
Hi,
Le lundi 24 septembre 2007, à 12:23 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :
Since everybody is making proposals for 2.22, here is my contribution:
we should merge the clock applet with the intlclock that Novell has written.
David and I have done some further work on it to support timezone
On 9/24/07, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Calvin Gaisford and I have been discussing this a few weeks ago and
he'll work on getting the two merged. My preference is to use the
current backend code, and import the intltool UI in the clock. I don't
think it will be really hard,
Hey!
On 9/24/07, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/24/07, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Calvin Gaisford and I have been discussing this a few weeks ago and
he'll work on getting the two merged. My preference is to use the
current backend code, and import the intltool
I'd love to hear some feedback from others. There are some consistency
issues most people can probably spot, like the [Edit] buttons should
probably be [Edit...] since they open other windows to complete the
interaction. Things like that I believe can be done pretty quickly and
aren't worth
Le lundi 24 septembre 2007, à 17:29 -0400, Bryan Clark a écrit :
On 9/24/07, Diego Escalante Urrelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/24/07, Matthias Clasen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 9/24/07, Vincent Untz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Calvin Gaisford and I have been discussing
On 9/24/07, Diego Escalante Urrelo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Speaking of UI, I have a little suggestion (based on the mockup on Fedora
wiki).
I see that below the world map there's a row that has a clock, the
zone and the weather, it's really cool but I can imagine it filling a
1024x768
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