Y. Will do. I'll be interested to compare the performance. One of the
obvious pros of tika-server is that you can move Tika off your vm and m.
:) The downside is that you have to manage it and open ports, which is
simple in many applications and impossible in others.
Once my refactoring is don
Hi Tim,
Could you clarify the pros and cons between ForkParser (after your
refactoring) and TikaServer? Maybe we should send those to users list and
wiki...
Thanks
2018-05-29 16:27 GMT-03:00 Tim Allison :
> Ken,
> Once TIKA-2653 is done and 1.19(?) is released, I'll propose switching
> ERH to
Ken,
Once TIKA-2653 is done and 1.19(?) is released, I'll propose switching
ERH to the ForkParser. There's also an open ticket for using tika-server.
I think users should have both options.
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Tim Allison wrote:
> 1: CORRECTION: the ForkParser by itself (without
1: CORRECTION: the ForkParser by itself (without my mods) will protect
against ooms, permanent hangs, and native lib crashing. My proposed mods (on
TIKA-2653) only move the parser dependencies out of Solr's dependencies.
2: note: Also, note the discussion on where to place this information.
Cassa
Hi Luis,
Yes, threads can only mitigate (not solve) some (not all) of the problems.
But they do help with hangs, which is why we use them when parsing docs with
Tika in Hadoop jobs.
Which is why I was curious why ERH didn’t take advantage of that approach, as
it’s better than not using them.
Y, my mods to the ForkParser should make it more robust, and will help with
OOMs, permanent hangs and native lib crashing. But those changes are still
in the works...
On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Luís Filipe Nassif
wrote:
> Hi Ken,
>
> Threads will not help with OutOfMemoryErrors or crashes
Having run a Solr service, you are striving to have quick response on queries
and want to avoid anything that can pause the JVM. You work hard to make your
updates quick and NRT. Text Extractions of XML based documents like Office and
big object files like PDF are memory intensive and should be
Related to this, do we have any guidance to help java users choosing
between ForkParser or TikaServer?
2018-05-29 16:18 GMT-03:00 Luís Filipe Nassif :
> Hi Ken,
>
> Threads will not help with OutOfMemoryErrors or crashes caused by native
> libs. ForkParser can help, after the refactoring started
Hi Ken,
Threads will not help with OutOfMemoryErrors or crashes caused by native
libs. ForkParser can help, after the refactoring started by Tim to handle
some of its limitations. See TIKA-2653
2018-05-29 16:11 GMT-03:00 Ken Krugler :
> Thanks for the ref, Tim.
>
> I’m curious why SolrCell doesn
Thanks for the ref, Tim.
I’m curious why SolrCell doesn’t fire up threads when parsing docs with Tika
(or use the fork parser), to mitigate issues with hangs & crashes?
— Ken
> On May 29, 2018, at 11:54 AM, Tim Allison wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Over the weekend, Shawn Heisey very kindly drafted a
All,
Over the weekend, Shawn Heisey very kindly drafted a wikipage about the
challenges of using Solr's ExtractingRequestHandler and the guidance to
avoid it in production.
I completely agree with this point, and I think that Shawn did a very
nice job of capturing some of the challenges. If
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