Stability (was Re: TuxPaint woes)

2008-07-30 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 30.07.2008, at 13:20, Greg Smith wrote: > On when the code is stable and frozen enough to do final regression > testing of activities: > > Michael, > > Can we track that as a milestone? Is that "code freeze (a.k.a. > package-level change control)" which is targeted (pending confirmation > e-ma

Re: TuxPaint woes (John Gilmore)

2008-07-30 Thread Greg Smith
ers and we may need to revisit this after we put a stake in the ground on freezing 8.2.0 APIs. Thanks, Greg S Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:54:42 -0700 > From: John Gilmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: TuxPaint woes > To: devel@lists.laptop.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > M

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Daniel Drake writes: > I'll look into why SDL_mixer went away, and what it is used for... It's for audio. Reasons for use include: * Nicely compatible with other SDL stuff * Cross-platform (BeOS, MacOS X, Win95, Vista...) * Easy support for stereo positioning * Handles *.ogg files * Good enough

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread John Gilmore
> >can't think of a faster way to make developers give up on our > >platform as a lost cause. As someone whose year-long OLPC-specific project (SimCity) was broken by Sugar interface changes right before the 650 release, I can report that it was pretty disheartening. Both the sound and the runn

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Daniel Drake
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 20:56 -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > There are people like me who like TuxPaint better than Oficina. > However, to run TuxPaint, users of current Joyride need to > re-install SDL_mixer and libmikmod. What are the errors that you encounter? Do you know libmikmod is needed

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Erik Garrison
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 08:04:10AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > michael wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:26:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >the obvious answers are that we need to commit to some level of > > >continuing support for activities, > > > > What notion of "supp

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread pgf
michael wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:26:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >the obvious answers are that we need to commit to some level of > >continuing support for activities, > > What notion of "support" would you suggest? not breaking supplied interfaces without providing fee

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Mikus Grinbergs writes: > There are people like me who like TuxPaint better than Oficina. > However, to run TuxPaint, users of current Joyride need to > re-install SDL_mixer and libmikmod. I hope you've filed a bug to request that those libraries be put back. I could use libpaper as well; the al

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-29 Thread Albert Cahalan
Michael Stone writes: > On the other hand, it would be rather trivial for activities which > cared to check their dependencies in a adhoc fashion (by running > rpm themselves if they wish) and by reporting errors if necessary > dependencies are unsatisfied. This is far from trivial. Sure, I could

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 11:26:28PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >the obvious answers are that we need to commit to some level of >continuing support for activities, What notion of "support" would you suggest? > that we support the activities ourselves, As above. > or that we need to provi

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-28 Thread pgf
michael wrote: > On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 08:56:47PM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: > >But should it be up to the Activity developers (or in this case, those > >who first "fitted" the software to Sugar) to keep supporting their > >submission as the Sugar/operating_system platform keeps evolving ?

Re: TuxPaint woes

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 08:56:47PM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: >But should it be up to the Activity developers (or in this case, those >who first "fitted" the software to Sugar) to keep supporting their >submission as the Sugar/operating_system platform keeps evolving ? Who else would you propos

TuxPaint woes

2008-07-28 Thread Mikus Grinbergs
There are people like me who like TuxPaint better than Oficina. However, to run TuxPaint, users of current Joyride need to re-install SDL_mixer and libmikmod. Also, TuxPaint is not being "checkpointed" by Journal (and seems to start slower than it did on build 65x). I realize there is a serio