Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-27 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Trevor! On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 01:31:52 -0500 "Trevor N. via devel" wrote: > >Gary E. Miller gem at rellim.com wrote > > Thank you for the comments, I have replies for each point: Talk is cheap, yet time consuming, and proves nothing. Send this list some ntpviz outp

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-30 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
HM(1). Known bug in 3.19. The major time refactor fixed it, dunno exactly why. Try git head. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Re: ublox refclock

2019-11-30 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
ms > > Collection has been restarted. That sounds like you were on the wrong edge. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Re: timer_gettime vs getitimer

2019-12-05 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
. Anyone with a non-POSIX OS had better help support their oddball system. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas libe

✘UnboundLocalError: local variable 'sortkey' referenced before assignment

2019-12-12 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
ey' referenced before assignment RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you

Re: N-second error for stratum 1 operation

2020-01-06 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
ow how san the receiver is. The pool operators filter out these false tickers if the problem persists, RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 38

Re: --enable-doc waf config option removed

2020-02-02 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
7;m for bringing it back. Asciidoctor pulls in ruby, and ruby mutates so quickly that I find it often broken. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.

Re: Possible cruft cleanup: clock_gettime vs getitimer

2020-02-17 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
eadState_Get: no current thread ../Do-config-ntpsec: line 11: 13733 Abort trap: 6 ./waf build RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Re: Possible cruft cleanup: clock_gettime vs getitimer

2020-02-17 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Richard! On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 16:15:36 -0600 Richard Laager wrote: > On 2/17/20 1:34 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > > But, when I tried to build with git head, I now get this error: > > > > Waf: Leaving directory `/usr/local/src/NTP/ntpsec/build/main&#x

Re: Possible cruft cleanup: clock_gettime vs getitimer

2020-02-17 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
in stitch_mru deletia += sorted(addrdict[addr], key=lambda x: x[1])[:-1] TypeError: '<' not supported between instances of 'NoneType' and 'NoneType' # python -V Python 3.7.6 # RGDS GARY --

Re: Long range thoughts

2020-02-28 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
curity by obscurity. No matter what port you put something on, nmap can find it trivially. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Re: LOGIF

2020-04-15 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
is useful? I'm always happy while debugging when I find a good log message right where I am looking. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+

Re: LOGIF

2020-04-15 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
there is an on/off switch of some sort. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can't measure it, you can&

Re: LOGIF

2020-04-15 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
D cards quickly. UNIX is choice. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can't measure it, yo

Re: LOGIF

2020-04-16 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
unting for peoples paranoia levels. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord

Re: Copyright years in source code

2020-05-06 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
hey all want it done. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord Kel

Re: Self-signed certificates

2020-05-06 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
n /var/lib/ntp/certs RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can't measure it, you can't

Re: Self Signed Certs

2020-05-07 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
both server and clients. > 2020-05-07T16:24:58 ntpd[27974]: NTS: error:14094418:SSL > routines:ssl3_read_bytes:tlsv1 alert unknown ca Your root cert not found on client. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmingto

Re: Copyright years in source code

2020-05-08 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Sanjeev! On Sat, 9 May 2020 00:55:08 +0800 Sanjeev Gupta wrote: > On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 3:42 AM Gary E. Miller via devel > wrote: > > > > > I did this at the suggestion of Mark Atwood. He is project head for > > gpsd, NTPsec and other projects. He also work

Re: Copyright years in source code

2020-05-08 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Richard! On Fri, 8 May 2020 14:34:31 -0500 Richard Laager wrote: > On 5/8/20 1:10 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > > I think the year of first publication still has some use as it > > disambiguates which version of copyright law applies. > > The "year of

Re: ntpq vs Python 3.8

2020-05-25 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
ot; with "python3.x"? On gpsd, I made the python shebang a config variable. The PEP used to be very specific, but the distros went all random. There is no one, or even two good answers. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Mi

Re: Off by N second errors

2020-05-26 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
was changed from doubles to timespec_t. Anyone with this problem needs to update their gpsd. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8

Re: Seccomp tangle

2020-05-26 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
ccomp does not protect against hacked binary or config files. It protects against runtime exploits. So no added attack surface by using a config file. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Be

✘Testing

2020-07-23 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo All! Testing 1-2-3. This list has been down since 13 Jul... RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit

✘'MODE_BROADCASTx'

2020-08-11 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
OADCASTx: What am I missing? RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it.&

Re: 'MODE_BROADCASTx'Mime-Version: 1.0

2020-08-12 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
py -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4557 Aug 11 19:43 /usr/local/src/NTP/ntpsec/build/main/pylib/magic.py pi4 ~ # python -V Python 3.7.8 pi4 ~ # echo $PYTHONPATH /usr/local/lib/python3.7/site-packages RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rel

Re: 'MODE_BROADCASTx'

2020-08-12 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
git clone. Which I thought I had done already, and now it works. So maybe the c;ean is a problem? My previous file times would also indicate that. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97

Re: I'm giving up on seccomp

2020-09-02 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
s about moving the daemon to Go" Lost me. seccomp applies to Go as much as it applies to C. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-02 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
on shebang a build option. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? &qu

Re: I'm giving up on seccomp

2020-09-02 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Eric! On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 14:33:10 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller via devel : > > Lost me. seccomp applies to Go as much as it applies to C. > > Why do you think so? My understanding is that the reason you want to > block unexpected sys

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-02 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
obably this: > #!/usr/bin/env python3 Not on Gentoo! > But yeah, I would make it a build option. waf presumably knows where > Python is, since it is running in Python. On many distors, like Gentoo, the building Python is not always the target python. RGDS GARY ------------

Re: I'm giving up on seccomp

2020-09-02 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
it seems like that split would make deploytment > and configuration more complicated. But I could be persuaded. Many people have asked for it. They want to be able to deploy the KE part on on host and have the NTP part on other hosts. RGDS GARY ----------

Re: I'm giving up on seccomp

2020-09-02 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Eric! On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 20:35:38 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller via devel : > > Buffer overruns are just one way a program might make unexpected > > system calls. Even if you can guarantee that a Go program could > > never be maliciously corr

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-02 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
done in 10 minutes. Which would mirror gpsd, and make many packagers happy. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-02 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
ave personal knowledge here. > > Yes. To the best of my knowledge every current Unix-like thing > does right with python3 in the shebang line. That makes hacking those > shebangs as unnecessary as it would be hazardous. All proposals so far break Gentoo, and its derivatives. Plus

Re: Splitting NTS-KE out from ntpd

2020-09-02 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
very secure server. Otherwise you have to manage TPM on every server, which is a PITA. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-03 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Eric! On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 06:37:07 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller via devel : > > > I don't want to go down this road. I have ugly memories > > > associated with a smiliar hack in gpsd, long ago. > > > > But what abou

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-03 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
distros pull the plug on Python 2. Or, just like seccomp, you volunteer to take all the complaints. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-03 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Richard! On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 02:30:48 -0500 Richard Laager via devel wrote: > On 9/2/20 7:54 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > > A big one: RHEL. As I said earlier, any time Python 2 breaks in > > gpsd it only takes a day or two for complaints. I have customers > >

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-03 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Richard! On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 02:30:43 -0500 Richard Laager via devel wrote: > On 9/2/20 7:44 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > >> 1. Change waf's shebang: > >> -#!/usr/bin/env python > >> +#!/usr/bin/env python3 > > > >

Re: Splitting NTS-KE out from ntpd

2020-09-03 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
the kernel decides to use TPM, emulate TPM, or just do the traditional. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas?

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-03 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Eric! On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 14:13:05 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller via devel : > > Say what? This has zero to do with libraries. > > Sure it dies. Use different versions of Python, require different > library paths. No more than any other

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-03 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
ace and use the only module for all your python versions. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Qu

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-03 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Richard! On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 23:05:52 -0500 Richard Laager via devel wrote: > On 9/3/20 1:12 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 02:30:43 -0500 > > Richard Laager via devel wrote: > > > >> On 9/2/20 7:44 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel w

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-03 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
re Python > 3 as long as all distros that NTPsec supports can install Python 3. Yup. Let us know when that happens. Gonna be years from now. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 977

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-03 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Richard! On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 00:37:11 -0500 Richard Laager via devel wrote: > On 9/4/20 12:16 AM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 23:28:33 -0500 > > Richard Laager via devel wrote: > > > >> NTPsec can require Python > >> 3 as l

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-03 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Richard! On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 01:00:34 -0500 Richard Laager via devel wrote: > [Reposting to list.] > > On 9/3/20 11:15 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > > The case you left out: > > > > # select 2.7 > > spidey ~ # python3 --version > > Python

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-04 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Eric! On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 08:23:05 -0400 "Eric S. Raymond" wrote: > Gary E. Miller via devel : > > As previously mentioned here: RHEL 6. > > Which is about to EOL. Then let us table the discussion until all the major distros have EOLed Python 2. > > &

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-04 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
. > I wouldn’t waste my time supporting it. Good. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid es

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-04 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
1.1.1 yet. So, non-sequitor. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." -

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-05 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Achim! On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 11:16:43 +0200 Achim Gratz via devel wrote: > Am 04.09.2020 um 18:48 schrieb Gary E. Miller via devel: > > Just because you do not use something does not make it dead. > > This is what upstream says about it: > > https://www.python.org/doc/

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-05 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
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Re: Python support policy

2020-09-05 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Richard! On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 17:02:57 -0500 Richard Laager via devel wrote: > On 9/5/20 2:19 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > > And yet, Gentoo, and others still ship 2.7. And end users still > > use it. > > This is not a discussion about whether Gentoo should dr

Re: Python support policy

2020-09-05 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Richard! On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 18:22:50 -0500 Richard Laager via devel wrote: > On 9/5/20 5:39 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > > It would be nice if you answered my objections > > Your primary concern seems to be that users will complain. Let me take > smaller bites

Re: FFI module architecture decision was 'Python support policy'

2020-09-07 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
gt; devel mailing list > devel@ntpsec.org > http://lists.ntpsec.org/mailman/listinfo/devel RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 V

Re: FFI module architecture decision was 'Python support policy'

2020-09-08 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
can install the ntpd pylib in one place, add that to your PYTHONPATH, and all version of Python will work with it. In my use it is a coin flip. But a lot of the world wants to just use pip and this makes pip much easier. RGDS GARY -----------

Re: static IP setup in stratum-1 HOWTO

2020-09-13 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
t distro. Maybe a Debian person cal help. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If

Re: What's the status of the work on shebangs and/or ctype?

2020-09-17 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
waf as `python3 waf` rather than `./waf`. > > That should not be controversial. It depends on the second commit, > though. If we cannot merge the second commit, then we could say this > instead: > >If you are running on a distro with no `python` executable, `./waf` >w

Re: What's the status of the work on shebangs and/or ctype?

2020-09-17 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Richard! On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 17:54:29 -0500 Richard Laager via devel wrote: > On 9/17/20 11:54 AM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > > I agree with the first of 4 goals of the MR. > ... > > > Rather than go around and around, how about a simple MR that only > &g

Re: What's the status of the work on shebangs and/or ctype?

2020-09-17 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Gary! On Thu, 17 Sep 2020 16:52:06 -0700 "Gary E. Miller via devel" wrote: > > > The fallback, goal 4, is "/usr/bin/env python". Does anyone > > > object to making that "/usr/bin/env python3"? > > > > I am in favor of that c

Fw: [Ntp] New security and protocol enhancements for NTP

2020-11-10 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo All! David L. Mills has a new proposal: NTP Lite. See below. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas

Re: ✘Python 2.7 broken

2020-12-12 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Richard! On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 19:46:22 -0600 Richard Laager via devel wrote: > On 12/12/20 7:07 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > > NTPsec git head broke Python 2.7, badly. > > I believe James B is looking at test failures under certain > conditions, but I

Re: ✘Python 2.7 broken

2020-12-12 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Richard! On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 19:46:22 -0600 Richard Laager via devel wrote: > On 12/12/20 7:07 PM, Gary E. Miller via devel wrote: > > NTPsec git head broke Python 2.7, badly. > Are you able to provide a commit where this works and preferably > bisect this? I wonder if it&#

Re: ✘Python 2.7 broken

2020-12-12 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo James! On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 18:04:57 -0800 James Browning via devel wrote: > It looks like a4c2c7921f144674402c2a3dbfc13a87b1ea3d1f can you > confirm? Confirmed. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmingt

Re: ✘Python 2.7 broken

2020-12-12 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
path = destdir + os.sep if destdir != '/' else '/' > spath = path + ctx.env.SBINDIR[1:] + os.sep > path = path + ctx.env.BINDIR[1:] + os.sep RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rel

Re: ✘Python 2.7 broken

2020-12-12 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
+ 'ntp' > -env = {'PYTHONPATH': pypath} if destdir != '/' else {} > +env = {'PYTHONPATH': pypath} You do NOT want to use the module in destdir. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Re

Re: ✘Python 2.7 broken

2020-12-12 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
If I have to fix it I'll just revert. Better for you to fix it properly. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas

Re: ✘Python 2.7 broken

2020-12-13 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
d the results match exactly. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If y

Re: ✘Python 2.7 broken

2020-12-13 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
-tags' and the final fall back is news source file date. > The latter changes the extended version format to list commits since > the last tag (if not 0) and a dirty tree indicator. --dirty is an interesting idea. If only we could force that on for distro patches. :-) getting a w

Re: libntpc.so

2020-12-14 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
is the Python ntp.ntpdc.py, which loads the libntpc.so using CFFI. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can't measure it

Re: libntpc.so

2020-12-14 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
t;. /etc/profile" must be run in every session, or you must reboot to have any effect. So using that technique will be very distro dependent. > Snow globe is broken. What is snow globe? RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Mill

Re: libntpc.so

2020-12-14 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
done. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord Kelvin p

Re: libntpc.so

2020-12-14 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
nd things, that only matters when you run ldconfig. And you always need to run ldconfig. The next, and important, question, is whether runtime now works for you? RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., S

Re: libntpc.so

2020-12-14 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
't decide between lib, lib32 and lib64. So epect randomness. > But it works. > > Similar on Fedora 32. So, no problems? RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8

Re: libntpc.so

2020-12-14 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
n't add the needed config > file. Then ldconfig does nothing useful for you. Not does it need to. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541

Re: libntpc.so

2020-12-14 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
IBDIR > on systems where /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ is a directory. Gonna be a lot of corner casaes with $PREFIX, $DESTDIR, etc. > I don't think it will break anything and it will fix the new Fedora > case. Luckily a problem I do not have. I just can't install... RGDS GARY ---

Re: libntpc.so

2020-12-15 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
install. The links need to change on lib revision changes. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can't measure it, you can't

Re: Blizard of mail from GitLab-Abuse-Automation

2020-12-16 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
ignore them. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - Lord Kelvin pgp

Fw: GitLab | Projects forced to "Private" (#294196)

2020-12-16 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo All! I opened GitLab issue #29419Y6. See blow. Only 34,000+ open isues in the queue ahead of me... Anyone have a contact at GitLab?? RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703

Re: Blizard of mail from GitLab-Abuse-Automation

2020-12-16 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
l actually look at it. Fingers crossed. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas?

Re: More thoughts on threads...

2020-12-16 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
ails. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can't measure it, you can&#x

✘Bad system call

2021-01-18 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
--- Ideas anyone? RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you

Re: ✘Bad system call

2021-01-18 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo James! On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 12:37:26 -0800 James Browning via devel wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, at 12:22 PM Gary E. Miller via devel > wrote: > > > Yo All! > > > > I have not been able to build/run ntpd on one system for a while. > > It used to work. No

Re: Bad system call

2021-01-18 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Hal! On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 14:00:49 -0800 Hal Murray wrote: > > Ideas anyone? > > Have you tried strace or gdb? strace attached. # strace -o strace ntpd -nN RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wi

Re: Bad system call

2021-01-18 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo James! On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:10:53 -0800 James Browning via devel wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, 3:04 PM Gary E. Miller via devel > wrote: > > > Yo Hal! > > > > On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 14:00:49 -0800 > > Hal Murray wrote: > > > > > > Ideas

Re: Bad system call

2021-01-18 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo All! On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 15:37:01 -0800 "Gary E. Miller via devel" wrote: > > It looks like seccomp is blocking __NR_clock_gettime64. Try > > compiling with the list updated or sans seccomp? Looks like I had built NTPsec with --enable-seccomp a while back. glibc u

Re: Bad system call

2021-01-18 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
eeds the ifdef stuff. I prefer to just run away. "seccomp" and "AppArmor" are just "Security Theater". But I agree someone that cares should fix it. Thanks to you and James for you help. RGDS GARY -----------

Re: discrete units

2021-01-18 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
ppy disks to make .h files small. BUt now I find it much easier to have large files. So I dont have to keep jumping from file to file. RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g

Re: discrete units

2021-01-18 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo James! On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 17:48:28 -0800 James Browning via devel wrote: > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021, at 5:03 PM Gary E. Miller via devel > wrote: > > > On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 16:58:11 -0800 > > Hal Murray via devel wrote: > > > > > James said: > &g

Fw: New Defects reported by Coverity Scan for ntpsec

2021-01-25 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo All! New coverity defects in ntpd. See below. RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid

✘ntp.ntpc wrong version

2021-02-03 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est veritas? "If you can't measure it, you can't improve it." - L

Re: ✘ntp.ntpc wrong version

2021-02-03 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo James! On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 20:00:15 -0800 James Browning via devel wrote: > On Wed, Feb 3, 2021, 7:39 PM Gary E. Miller via devel > wrote: > > > Yo All! > > > > I just tried NTPsec git head on Python 3.9. > > > > spidey ~ # ntpmon > > ntp.ntp

Re: TSC warp, Threads

2021-03-10 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 v3 @ 3.50GHz RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588 Veritas liberabit vos. -- Quid est verit

Re: Clock tracking

2021-03-22 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
nough not to require > "work"?) > > What sort of accuracy can I get? Anybody have data or a HOWTO? > > RGDS GARY ----------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...

Re: Clock tracking

2021-03-22 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
nic nics that support hardware PTP have a PPS input. So they can sync to PPS in hardwre. An advanced topic best discussed on the linuxptp list. Most consumer nics do not support any hardware stamping. The middle and upper range Intel nics do. RGDS GARY -----

Re: maxpoll 4 quirks

2021-03-24 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo Hal! On Wed, 24 Mar 2021 13:02:52 -0700 Hal Murray via devel wrote: > systemd-timesyncd was running. Every day I hear someone abused by systemd. Congrats! Today was your day! RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim

Re: systemd-timesyncd

2021-03-24 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
t include turning off systemd-timesyncd? Any HOWTO I would use includes "rm /usr/sbin/systemd" RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541

Re: Objectives for the next year

2021-06-18 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
icket=vfArSqzP1d0%3d&tabid=57 More of a process guide for beginners than a coding guide. RGDS GARY ------- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW Wilmington Ave., Suite E, Bend, OR 97703 g...@rellim.com Tel:+1 541 382 8588

✘DUT1 now -0.1 seconds

2021-07-06 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
= -0.2 seconds beginning 02 May 2019 at UTC = -0.1 seconds beginning 17 July 2021 at UTC RGDS GARY --- Gary E. Miller Rellim 109 NW

Time Card

2021-08-11 Thread Gary E. Miller via devel
Yo All! An interesting open source project from Facebook. The Time Card: https://engineering.fb.com/2021/08/11/open-source/time-appliance/ A GNSS receiver, GPSDO, RB clock, and more on a PCIe card. RGDS GARY --- Gary E

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