On 7/26/2014 10:57 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote:
> Yup, but remember there are two possible explanations why:
Neither of which are at all relevant. All Netflix traffic is encrypted
but this did not prevent Comcast from intentionally degrading Netflix
traffic throughput. All Netflix traffic is
> From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss-
> bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Ronan
>
> Slashdot discussion re: Verizon Fios customer's experience:
> "However, his Netflix video streams were limping along at just
> 375kbps (0.375mbps), equivalent to 0
Slashdot discussion re: Verizon Fios customer's experience:
"However, his Netflix video streams were limping along at just
375kbps (0.375mbps), equivalent to 0.5 percent of the speed he's
paying for. On a hunch, he decided to connect to a VPN service,
which in theory should actually make thing
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Tom Metro wrote:
> Bill Bogstad wrote:
>> VZ for land lines (and even FIOS) is at least somewhat a regulated
>> monopoly. ...you could get the appropriate state regulatory agency
>> involved on your side.
>
> My understanding is that once you get rid of your copper
Bill Bogstad wrote:
> VZ for land lines (and even FIOS) is at least somewhat a regulated
> monopoly. ...you could get the appropriate state regulatory agency
> involved on your side.
My understanding is that once you get rid of your copper phone lines,
the state regulatory agency is out of the pi
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:25:40AM -0400, Bill Bogstad wrote:
>
> VZ for land lines (and even FIOS) is at least somewhat a regulated
> monopoly. As such, they might be legally required to provide service
> (as long as you don't legally owe them money). The nice thing about
> this is that there
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
wrote:
>> From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss-
>> bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Anderson
>>
>> If they broke the contract, take then to small claims court.
>
> That was 2-3 years ago, they
> From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss-
> bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Anderson
>
> If they broke the contract, take then to small claims court.
That was 2-3 years ago, they technically didn't break the contract because they
WROTE the contract
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 02:25:06AM +, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote:
> > From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss-
> > bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Conner
> >
> > When we, the consumers band together and demand that our isp's not slow
> > down o
> From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss-
> bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Stuart Conner
>
> When we, the consumers band together and demand that our isp's not slow
> down our, the customer's, net activity and/or change isp's and say why
> we're leaving. T
gt;
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >1. Https - the solution to net neutrality and ISP monopolies
> > (Edward Ned Harvey (blu))
> >2. Re: Https - the solution to net neutrality and ISP
monopolies
> > (Bill Horne)
> >
> >
> > --
No.
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When we, the consumers
(Edward Ned Harvey (blu))
>2. Re: Https - the solution to net neutrality and ISPmonopolies
> (Bill Horne)
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 13:10:17 +
> From: "Edward Ned Harvey (blu)"
> To: &qu
Could be worse. In my neighborhood the reasonable choices are Comcast,
Comcast, and Comcast.
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
wrote:
>> From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss-
>> bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Tom Metro
>>
>> The r
> From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss-
> bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Tom Metro
>
> The real answer is that you should cease doing business with an ISP that
> fails to upgrade its peering points to meet demand. Only with a
> sufficient quantity of use
> From: discuss-bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org [mailto:discuss-
> bounces+blu=nedharvey@blu.org] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey
> (blu)
>
> It's the same content, being delivered over the
> same network, only it's encrypted and hidden from FiOS's routers. There's
> no other explanation, si
Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote:
> Recently I noticed, that all our video streams...Buffering every 1-15
> minutes...
>
> So I got to thinking, could encryption be used to circumvent greedy
> ISP's systematically?
No. Bill Bogstad covered most of this, but I recommend doing a bit of
reading on the
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu)
wrote:
>...
> So I got to thinking, could encryption be used to circumvent greedy ISP's
> systematically? If everything were encrypted and unidentifiable, then the
> only thing they could do would be to throttle *all* the traffic, not jus
On 7/22/2014 9:10 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (blu) wrote:
Recently I noticed, that all our video streams get interrupted annoyingly
frequently. Buffering every 1-15 minutes, it's infuriating. Sometimes I can
dumb down the connection, switching to CC instead of HD. Sometimes it helps.
Not always
Every night when I put my daughter to bed, I read her a book, or we play
flashlight shadow puppets, or we watch videos such as The Duck Song, or
Blackbeard, Bluebeard, Redbeard. We watch netflix, youtube, etc.
Recently I noticed, that all our video streams get interrupted annoyingly
frequently
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