Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.07.2012 05:59, schrieb Stan Hoeppner: >>> That's simply not true Reindl. >>> >>> SATA drives are being used very widely in production today, and >>> outnumber SAS deployments by a very wide margin. >> >> for SOHO with no public services, yes > > Google has more public facing services, se

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Frank Bonnet
Le 10/07/2012 08:13, Robert Schetterer a écrit : Am 09.07.2012 21:41, schrieb Reindl Harald: in these environments you find near to zero SATA only few people these does are doing bare metal installs in days where hardware supported virtaliziation has nearly zero overhead Hi Harald, that simpl

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 09.07.2012 21:41, schrieb Reindl Harald: > in these environments you find near to zero SATA > only few people these does are doing bare metal installs in days > where hardware supported virtaliziation has nearly zero overhead Hi Harald, that simply not true i have thousends of mailbox users on

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 09.07.2012 21:29, schrieb Stan Hoeppner: > SAS is found today almost exclusively in high volume transactional > servers such as mail spools, mail stores, databases, VM image storage, > and applications that need higher reliability, such as medical imaging > systems, etc. and SAS may not be fast

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Noel Butler
On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 12:10 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > what you do not understand is that a proper SAN is NOT > an complex setup, it is in many cases a simpler one > because you have TWO controllers, disks with DUAL channel > and a proper RAID level in ONE device > > to built all this redundan

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/9/2012 2:41 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 09.07.2012 21:29, schrieb Stan Hoeppner: >> On 7/9/2012 3:17 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> >>> >>> Am 09.07.2012 07:48, schrieb Wojciech Puchar: > disagreed with my statement, then agreed with it. Apparently you didn't > realize you did s

Re: [Dovecot] recover .sieve plaintext from .sievec binary file

2012-07-09 Thread Florin Andrei
On 07/09/2012 03:00 PM, Stephan Bosch wrote: And then you still have a problem. The sieved tool does not reconstruct the sieve script that was used to create it; it produces an assembly-like output from the byte code. You'd have to manually translate that back to Sieve. :/ Looks like I'll have

Re: [Dovecot] recover .sieve plaintext from .sievec binary file

2012-07-09 Thread Stephan Bosch
On 7/9/2012 10:53 PM, Florin Andrei wrote: On 07/09/2012 01:46 PM, Pascal Volk wrote: On 07/09/2012 10:28 PM Florin Andrei wrote: … By mistake, I deleted the .sieve plaintext file with all the Sieve filters, but I still do have the .sievec compiled binary. Is there any way to dump the binary fi

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Jakob Curdes
Am 09.07.2012 22:42, schrieb s...@privat.dk: Moi. Hi there. Wouldn't it be possible to either stop this madness of silly people trying to teach other maillist users this storage nonsense ? (Religion) or to tell how to unsubscribe asap ? My inbox is filling up with this to me, and maybe other on

Re: [Dovecot] recover .sieve plaintext from .sievec binary file

2012-07-09 Thread Florin Andrei
On 07/09/2012 01:46 PM, Pascal Volk wrote: On 07/09/2012 10:28 PM Florin Andrei wrote: … By mistake, I deleted the .sieve plaintext file with all the Sieve filters, but I still do have the .sievec compiled binary. Is there any way to dump the binary file back into plaintext format? Keep in mind,

Re: [Dovecot] recover .sieve plaintext from .sievec binary file

2012-07-09 Thread Pascal Volk
On 07/09/2012 10:28 PM Florin Andrei wrote: > … > By mistake, I deleted the .sieve plaintext file with all the Sieve > filters, but I still do have the .sievec compiled binary. Is there any > way to dump the binary file back into plaintext format? Keep in mind, > I'm running v2 now, and the bina

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread solo
Moi. Hi there. Wouldn't it be possible to either stop this madness of silly people trying to teach other maillist users this storage nonsense ? (Religion) or to tell how to unsubscribe asap ? My inbox is filling up with this to me, and maybe other on the dovecot list, completely out of the list s

[Dovecot] recover .sieve plaintext from .sievec binary file

2012-07-09 Thread Florin Andrei
Hi, I upgraded a server from an old Linux distribution to a much newer one. In the process, Dovecot got upgraded from v1 to v2. By mistake, I deleted the .sieve plaintext file with all the Sieve filters, but I still do have the .sievec compiled binary. Is there any way to dump the binary fil

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.07.2012 21:29, schrieb Stan Hoeppner: > On 7/9/2012 3:17 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 09.07.2012 07:48, schrieb Wojciech Puchar: disagreed with my statement, then agreed with it. Apparently you didn't realize you did so. Would you please clarify what I stated that is >>>

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 7/9/2012 3:17 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 09.07.2012 07:48, schrieb Wojciech Puchar: >>> disagreed with my statement, then agreed with it. Apparently you didn't >>> realize you did so. Would you please clarify what I stated that is >>> "simply not true"? You comment WRT SSD doesn't pr

Re: [Dovecot] configuring imap_stats

2012-07-09 Thread Pascal Volk
On 07/09/2012 12:45 PM Reinhard Vicinus wrote: > Hi, > > i'm trying to configure imap_stats like it's documented in the wiki: > http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Statistics. But as soon as i activate the > imap_stats plugin i get the following error message trying to login via > imap: > > dovecot: imap

Re: [Dovecot] mailboxes missing after upgrade from 2.1.4 to 2.1.7

2012-07-09 Thread Micah Anderson
Micah Anderson writes: > I mentioned this on the #dovecot irc channel, but I thought I would post > here so I can provide more details. > > The basic problem is that when I upgraded from 2.1.4 to 2.1.7, some > users no longer are able to see their folders in pine/alpine. The > folders are actuall

Re: [Dovecot] imap-login: Panic: epoll_ctl(add, 6) failed: Invalid argument

2012-07-09 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 09.07.2012 13:51, schrieb Timo Sirainen: > On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 13:39 +0200, Angel L. Mateo wrote: >> Hello, >> >> More problems (it seems that we won't be able to put our new servers in >> production). The problem now is that when we reach 1000 dovecot >> processes we have errors like:

Re: [Dovecot] imap-login: Panic: epoll_ctl(add, 6) failed: Invalid argument

2012-07-09 Thread Angel L. Mateo
El 09/07/12 13:51, Timo Sirainen escribió: On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 13:39 +0200, Angel L. Mateo wrote: Hello, More problems (it seems that we won't be able to put our new servers in production). The problem now is that when we reach 1000 dovecot processes we have errors like: Jul 9 12:10

Re: [Dovecot] imap-login: Panic: epoll_ctl(add, 6) failed: Invalid argument

2012-07-09 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Mon, 2012-07-09 at 13:39 +0200, Angel L. Mateo wrote: > Hello, > > More problems (it seems that we won't be able to put our new servers in > production). The problem now is that when we reach 1000 dovecot > processes we have errors like: > > Jul 9 12:10:22 myotis31 dovecot: imap-login

[Dovecot] imap-login: Panic: epoll_ctl(add, 6) failed: Invalid argument

2012-07-09 Thread Angel L. Mateo
Hello, More problems (it seems that we won't be able to put our new servers in production). The problem now is that when we reach 1000 dovecot processes we have errors like: Jul 9 12:10:22 myotis31 dovecot: imap-login: Panic: epoll_ctl(add, 6) failed: Invalid argument Jul 9 12:10:22 myoti

[Dovecot] Enough - Was: Re: Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Charles Marcus
Please, guys, lets put an end to this topic, I think everyone has had their say, and everyone is capable of making up their own mind about what type of storage to use - the noise is starting to get irritating. On 2012-07-09 6:44 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 09.07.2012 12:37, schrieb Wojciech P

[Dovecot] configuring imap_stats

2012-07-09 Thread Reinhard Vicinus
Hi, i'm trying to configure imap_stats like it's documented in the wiki: http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Statistics. But as soon as i activate the imap_stats plugin i get the following error message trying to login via imap: dovecot: imap: Error: Can't load plugin imap_stats_plugin: Plugin stats m

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.07.2012 12:37, schrieb Wojciech Puchar: >> look in the mirror after your off-list explanations why > > i am talking both about your off-list and on-list conversation in which you > prove all your "knowledge" is advert > based. you have no idea about my knowledge impossible becaus i have

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Wojciech Puchar
please stop this bullshit, especially OFF-LIST Fortunately you do not decide about it. i do not sell them and i am not uneducated The wording they use ("everyone do this", "because it is enterprise") just proves that most of them are people that should not even touch a computer look in t

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.07.2012 12:14, schrieb Wojciech Puchar: > there are lots of skilled engineers here on that forum. > > But certainly not the ones that babble about storage, SANs etc.. just because > they sell them, have profits from > selling them or are just that uneducated. please stop this bullshit, e

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Many people just want to be proud, or want to make things expensive so their clients are proud. but not always it's like that. You go on a bit about "pride in complexity" . . What you fail to understand is that many highly intelligent, experienced, very able engineers build systems that are

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
what you do not understand is that a proper SAN is NOT an complex setup, it is in many cases a simpler one because you have TWO controllers, disks with DUAL channel and a proper RAID level in ONE device to built all this redundancy at your own is a much complexer software-setup and you can be pret

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Noel Butler
Seem some people have never heard of "keep it simple, stupid"or "less is more" ... sounds like a few people here are falsely propping up their worth to their employers, making unnecessary BS to justify their own existence. My experience of over 20 years of this industry easily shows that t

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.07.2012 11:41, schrieb Wojciech Puchar: >>> using SATA for any production-storage >>> >> >> Hi, sorry SATA is running fine here, > > as well here. > > Many people just want to be proud, or want to make things expensive so their > clients are proud. but not always it's > like that. oh ye

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread J E Lyon
On 9 Jul 2012, at 10:41, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > Many people just want to be proud, or want to make things expensive so their > clients are proud. but not always it's like that. You go on a bit about "pride in complexity" . . What you fail to understand is that many highly intelligent, experie

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Wojciech Puchar
ouch - that said and your offlist discussion why SAN storages are crap for you gives a picture - nobody, really nobody is using SATA for any production-storage In a view of moron you are "everyone".

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Wojciech Puchar
using SATA for any production-storage Hi, sorry SATA is running fine here, as well here. Many people just want to be proud, or want to make things expensive so their clients are proud. but not always it's like that.

[Dovecot] Timeout (180s) while waiting for lock for transaction log file

2012-07-09 Thread Angel L. Mateo
Hello, We still have problems with our updated dovecot servers... The problem now is that we are having errors like: Jul 9 10:22:02 myotis31 dovecot: lmtp(15431, ): Error: Timeout (180s) while waiting for lock for transaction log file /var/indexes//.INBOX/dovecot.index.log Jul 9 10:22:02

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 09.07.2012 10:17, schrieb Reindl Harald: > > > Am 09.07.2012 07:48, schrieb Wojciech Puchar: >>> disagreed with my statement, then agreed with it. Apparently you didn't >>> realize you did so. Would you please clarify what I stated that is >>> "simply not true"? You comment WRT SSD doesn't

Re: [Dovecot] Howto add another disk storage

2012-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.07.2012 07:48, schrieb Wojciech Puchar: >> disagreed with my statement, then agreed with it. Apparently you didn't >> realize you did so. Would you please clarify what I stated that is >> "simply not true"? You comment WRT SSD doesn't prove anything I said to >> be untrue. Quite the con