Re: [EM] SODA

2011-07-06 Thread fsimmons
> > Therefore, we finally have a monotone, clone free, DSV that > takes rankings > > as input, and puts out > > rationally determined approval ballots. > > > > Well, you'd have to impute the most popular ranking among a > candidate'svoters to the candidate, and either use some direct > approva

Re: [EM] SODA

2011-07-06 Thread Jameson Quinn
2011/7/6 > By the way, when the delegations are done sequentially, the optimum > strategy for each player is > (generically) deterministic. No mixed strategies are needed to get optimum > game theoretic results. > Yes, that's the point. > > Because of this, a DSV (Delegated Strategy Voting) v

Re: [EM] SODA

2011-07-06 Thread fsimmons
Yes, you are right! Now I would like to suggest a way to make this method clone proof: The key is to use the solid coalition structure of the factions to determine the sequential order of play (i.e. "delegation"), from largest coalition to smallest. I believe that completely solves the proble

Re: [EM] SODA

2011-07-06 Thread fsimmons
By the way, when the delegations are done sequentially, the optimum strategy for each player is (generically) deterministic. No mixed strategies are needed to get optimum game theoretic results. Because of this, a DSV (Delegated Strategy Voting) version would give the same result as rationa

Re: [EM] Has this idea been considered?

2011-07-06 Thread Andrew Myers
On 7/22/64 2:59 PM, Russ Paielli wrote: ...I eventually realized I was kidding myself to think that those schemes will ever see the light of day in major public elections. What is the limit of complexity that the general public will accept on a large scale? I don't know, but I have my doubts th

Re: [EM] SODA clarification

2011-07-06 Thread Jameson Quinn
2011/7/6 Andy Jennings > Jameson, > > I have become confused about one point of operation in SODA. Take this > scenario: > > 35 A>B>C > 34 B>C>A > 31 C>A>B > > If A delegates to A,B then does B have 69 votes he can delegate to B,C or > does he have only 34 he can play with? > > In other words, c

[EM] SODA clarification

2011-07-06 Thread Andy Jennings
Jameson, I have become confused about one point of operation in SODA. Take this scenario: 35 A>B>C 34 B>C>A 31 C>A>B If A delegates to A,B then does B have 69 votes he can delegate to B,C or does he have only 34 he can play with? In other words, can votes delegated from one candidate to anothe

Re: [EM] Has this idea been considered?

2011-07-06 Thread Juho Laatu
On 6.7.2011, at 6.42, Russ Paielli wrote: > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:14 AM, Juho Laatu wrote: > On 5.7.2011, at 11.19, Russ Paielli wrote: > >> If one wants to simplify the inheritance rules even more then we might end >> up using a tree method (I seem to mention it in every mail I send:). In t