Re: [EM] Nondeterminism in Multiwinner Methods

2008-10-29 Thread Raph Frank
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's another problem. If you pick n ballots, with some probability more > than one ballot is going to have the same first place candidate. This might > be solvable by picking the first place candidate of the fir

Re: [EM] Nondeterminism in Multiwinner Methods

2008-10-29 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Raph Frank wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A multiwinner analog of random candidate would be vulnerable to cloning, and I don't think random ballot (pick n ballots) would be proportional either. Actually, pick n ballots would be proport

Re: [EM] Nondeterminism in Multiwinner Methods

2008-10-29 Thread Raph Frank
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 7:12 PM, Kristofer Munsterhjelm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A multiwinner analog of random > candidate would be vulnerable to cloning, and I don't think random ballot > (pick n ballots) would be proportional either. Actually, pick n ballots would be proportional. If there

Re: [EM] Nondeterminism in Multiwinner Methods

2008-10-29 Thread Kristofer Munsterhjelm
Greg Nisbet wrote: For the record, I am against nondeterminism in single winner methods, but that is another ball of wax that I want to keep separate. Anyway, the single winner methods can be divided into a few basic types: 1) slow (these take O(candidates!) time. They are non-iterative) 2) fas

Re: [EM] Nondeterminism in Multiwinner Methods

2008-10-26 Thread Raph Frank
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 4:44 AM, Greg Nisbet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is unlikely that a nondeterminstic solution would be perfect, of course. > > However, I suspect that it can deliver at least some of the benefits > of group (1) without incurring factorial execution time. > > Any thoughts

[EM] Nondeterminism in Multiwinner Methods

2008-10-25 Thread Greg Nisbet
For the record, I am against nondeterminism in single winner methods, but that is another ball of wax that I want to keep separate. Anyway, the single winner methods can be divided into a few basic types: 1) slow (these take O(candidates!) time. They are non-iterative) 2) fast (these rely on iter