RE: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Samiya Illias Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 8:36 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Evolution from Scripture Evolution and Creationism are generally considered to be opposing world

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread LizR
On 3 May 2014 06:01, Samiya Illias wrote: > >> John asks: Name one scientific fact in the Bible or the Koran that you > wouldn't expect members of a Bronze Age tribe in 1500BC to know. > >1. Worker honey bees who collect food are females >2. More than one stomach in a honey bee's body >

Re: Video of VCR

2014-05-02 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Friday, May 2, 2014 11:15:40 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 01 May 2014, at 20:42, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 18, 2014 3:23:13 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 16 Apr 2014, at 20:10, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> What generates Platonia? >> >> >> >> Nothing

Re: Video of VCR

2014-05-02 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, May 1, 2014 9:07:13 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: > > > > > On 2 May 2014 04:42, Craig Weinberg >wrote: > >> >> >> On Friday, April 18, 2014 3:23:13 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 16 Apr 2014, at 20:10, Craig Weinberg wrote: >>> >>> What generates Platonia? >>> >>> >>> >>>

Re: Video of VCR

2014-05-02 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Thursday, May 1, 2014 7:21:19 PM UTC-4, yanniru wrote: > > I say that human beings (first-person) experience reality only in terms of > words, > You think that we were born with words? > many words with some measure of meaning and some without any meaning at > all. Even the physics you

Re: The Evolutionary Tree of Religion

2014-05-02 Thread meekerdb
On 5/2/2014 8:02 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 01 May 2014, at 21:04, meekerdb wrote: On 5/1/2014 2:18 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Someone said: "So what does "existence" mean besides stable patterns of information, e.g. perception of the Moon, landing on the Moon, tidal effects of the Moon,

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread John Mikes
Telmo, I admire your self-control in 'religious' topics. Do you indeed have a well fitting definition of religious? On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Kim Jones wrote: > >> >> >> On 2 May 2014, at 6:05 pm, Samiya Illias wrote: >> >> >>

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread Samiya Illias
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 02 May 2014, at 05:35, Samiya Illias wrote: > > Evolution and Creationism are generally considered to be opposing world > views. This article attempts to prove from Scripture the existence of > humans pre-dating Adam, thereby showing tha

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread Samiya Illias
> > > John asks: Name one scientific fact in the Bible or the Koran that you wouldn't expect members of a Bronze Age tribe in 1500BC to know. 1. Worker honey bees who collect food are females 2. More than one stomach in a honey bee's body 3. Description of human embryo which can only be s

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 02 May 2014, at 05:35, Samiya Illias wrote: Evolution and Creationism are generally considered to be opposing world views. This article attempts to prove from Scripture the existence of humans pre-dating Adam, thereby showing that evolution is not opposed to creationism, rather it is on

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread John Clark
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Samiya Illias wrote: > Proof is the domain of science. > Proof is the domain of mathematics, science can never prove that a idea is correct, it can only prove that something is wrong. > Scripture guides the way for those who believe. > Scripture, that is to say

Re: Video of VCR

2014-05-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 May 2014, at 20:42, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Friday, April 18, 2014 3:23:13 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 16 Apr 2014, at 20:10, Craig Weinberg wrote: What generates Platonia? Nothing generates Platonia, although addition and multiplication can generate the comp-relevant pa

Re: The Evolutionary Tree of Religion

2014-05-02 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 May 2014, at 21:04, meekerdb wrote: On 5/1/2014 2:18 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: Someone said: "So what does "existence" mean besides stable patterns of information, e.g. perception of the Moon, landing on the Moon, tidal effects of the Moon,.." So electrons did not exist until

Re: Consciousness: Emotions & Feelings

2014-05-02 Thread LizR
It is the passage from "to eat or to be eaten" to "to be or not to be". Very nice! PS I took the liberty of - I think - correcting it to what you meant. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread LizR
PPS by the way, I think all that is being proved in that article is that holy texts tend to include a number of creation myths loosely stitched together, rather than just one. I'm fairly sure Genesis in the Bible (for example) contains at least two creation myths (I read it to check, and it certain

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread LizR
PS I meant to add, nice comment from Telmo! Wise words - avoid enlightenment, seek pleasure! I believe the Buddha did quite a bit of that, too... although he eventually succumbed to the temptations of enlightenment (I guess nobody's perfect). -- You received this message because you are subscribe

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread LizR
1st post "This article attempts to prove from Scripture..." 2nd post "Proof is the domain of science. Scripture guides the way for those who believe." Do I detect some fancy footwork? Even I try not to contradict myself in consecutive posts. As for "[scripture] has much to offer to those seeking

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Kim Jones wrote: > > > On 2 May 2014, at 6:05 pm, Samiya Illias wrote: > > > > On 02-May-2014, at 11:03 am, meekerdb wrote: > > On 5/1/2014 9:08 PM, Samiya Illias wrote: > > Proof is the domain of science. Scripture guides the way for those who > believe. For tho

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread Kim Jones
> On 2 May 2014, at 6:05 pm, Samiya Illias wrote: > > > >> On 02-May-2014, at 11:03 am, meekerdb wrote: >> >>> On 5/1/2014 9:08 PM, Samiya Illias wrote: >>> Proof is the domain of science. Scripture guides the way for those who >>> believe. For those who believe theology to be a valid area

Re: Films I think people on this forum might like

2014-05-02 Thread LizR
you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Now_You_See_Me_%28film%29 ? that was quite fun, a bit incredulity stretching... On 2 May 2014 01:14, Martin Abramson wrote: > How about: NOW YOU SEE ME ? > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:14 AM, LizR wrote: > >> One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento".

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-02 Thread Samiya Illias
> On 02-May-2014, at 11:03 am, meekerdb wrote: > >> On 5/1/2014 9:08 PM, Samiya Illias wrote: >> Proof is the domain of science. Scripture guides the way for those who >> believe. For those who believe theology to be a valid area of study, it is >> interesting to find that though the scriptur