Re: Variations in measure

2001-12-19 Thread Russell Standish
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Wei writes: > > If by flying-rabbit you mean any deviation from simplicity, then I agree > > with you. Notice that our own universe is full of quantum randomness, but > > we don't see any pattern to the randomness. Similarly, an observer in a > > Conway's life univer

Re: Variations in measure

2001-12-19 Thread hal
Wei writes: > If by flying-rabbit you mean any deviation from simplicity, then I agree > with you. Notice that our own universe is full of quantum randomness, but > we don't see any pattern to the randomness. Similarly, an observer in a > Conway's life universe may observe these anomolies that yo

Re: Variations in measure

2001-12-19 Thread Wei Dai
On Wed, Dec 19, 2001 at 09:39:09AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This suggests that the simplicity explanation against flying-rabbit > universes is not strong, because the total collection of flying-rabbit > universes is close in measure to the simple universe to which they > rerpesent except

Re: Variations in measure

2001-12-19 Thread hal
Wei writes: > If you think about it more, I think you'll realize that the greater number > of observer-moments observing flying rabbits or similar happenings can't > make up for the much smaller measure of each such observer-moment. > Unfortunately right now I can't find a way to easily articulate

Re: Variations in measure

2001-12-17 Thread Wei Dai
On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 02:24:07PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hence the all universe principle does not easily explain the absence of > flying rabbits, because while flying-rabbit universes are more complex > and of lower measure, there are so many more ways to come up with complex > univer

Re: Variations in measure

2001-12-17 Thread Marchal
Wei Dai Wrote >On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 12:57:16PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> For example, suppose he took a drug which made his mental processes >> become confused. He was no longer sure of basic facts about himself >> and the universe. This mental state would no longer be bound to one

Re: Variations in measure

2001-12-16 Thread Russell Standish
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Wei writes, quoting Hal > > > In general, one might expect those minds with less observational power > > > and less specific knowledge and understanding of the universe to have > > > larger measure. > > > > Yes, but that doesn't mean you should be surprised if you f

Re: Variations in measure

2001-12-16 Thread hal
Wei writes, quoting Hal > > In general, one might expect those minds with less observational power > > and less specific knowledge and understanding of the universe to have > > larger measure. > > Yes, but that doesn't mean you should be surprised if you find yourself > having more observational p

Re: Variations in measure

2001-12-15 Thread Wei Dai
On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 12:57:16PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > For example, suppose he took a drug which made his mental processes > become confused. He was no longer sure of basic facts about himself > and the universe. This mental state would no longer be bound to one > specific universe

Re: Variations in measure

2001-12-09 Thread Saibal Mitra
Russel wrote: > Saibal Mitra wrote: > > > > > > Hal wrote: > > > > > > > One of the concepts we have explored is that all universes and hence > > > all minds exist, but that some observer-moments have greater "measure" > > > than others. This may help to explain why we observe the kind of univer

Re: Variations in measure

2001-12-09 Thread Russell Standish
Saibal Mitra wrote: > > > Hal wrote: > > > > One of the concepts we have explored is that all universes and hence > > all minds exist, but that some observer-moments have greater "measure" > > than others. This may help to explain why we observe the kind of universe > > that we do, because we

Re: Variations in measure

2001-12-09 Thread Saibal Mitra
Hal wrote: > One of the concepts we have explored is that all universes and hence > all minds exist, but that some observer-moments have greater "measure" > than others. This may help to explain why we observe the kind of universe > that we do, because we must be observer-moments that have rel

Variations in measure

2001-12-08 Thread hal
One of the concepts we have explored is that all universes and hence all minds exist, but that some observer-moments have greater "measure" than others. This may help to explain why we observe the kind of universe that we do, because we must be observer-moments that have relatively large measure.