On 27/07/08 03:53, Keith G. Robertson-Turner wrote:
Verily I say unto thee, that Bob Marcan spake thusly:
(Original subject: clamav 0.93 on Fedora 8)
Will this ever happen ?
For some reason the Fedora 8 packages for ClamAV are lagging behind F9,
so I've provided updates for the following arc
I used that liveusb-creator-2.7
adios
KSH SHRM
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2008/7/26 Mikkel L. Ellertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ksh shrm wrote:
>
>> I tried to install fedora 9 on my SanDisk Cruzer Micro 1 GB Pen but I got
>> following errors in er
Hello,
since my kernel upgrade from 2.6.25.10-86.fc9.x86_64 to
2.6.25.11-97.fc9.x86_64 my wlan nic stopped working.
The logs say:
Jul 27 02:44:10 laptop NetworkManager: wlan0: Device is fully-supported
using driver 'iwl4965'.
Jul 27 02:46:49 laptop kernel: iwl4965: Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link
2008/7/27 Bjoern Schiessle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hello,
>
> since my kernel upgrade from 2.6.25.10-86.fc9.x86_64 to
> 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.x86_64 my wlan nic stopped working.
>
> The logs say:
>
> Jul 27 02:44:10 laptop NetworkManager: wlan0: Device is
> fully-supported using driver 'iwl4965'.
> Jul
Hi.
I'm suspicious that PulseAudio is not starting properly after kernel
updates. For example, if I start Skype, I got the message: "problem with
audio playback". Or if I try "Applications->Sound & Video->PulseAudio
Volume Control", I got the message "connection refused". And finally:
[EMAIL
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 08:13:44 +0200
Huub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > DRDY - Data ready (not really important here)
> > ERR - Error occurred
> > UNC - Uncorrectable (eg bad block)
> >
> > And C8 is a read command (read via DMA)
> >
> >
> > Alan
> >
>
> So the only solution to this is try
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 00:24 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I'm not arguing,
No, never... ;-)
> but
Okay, I'll let you argue... ;-)
> a) you admit you haven't used KDE4 (or did I misunderstand?).
"Hadn't"... Curiosity did get the better of me. I wasn't impressed.
The new menus were
After latest updates (last day or two), my wireless mouse quit working.
Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse combo are the devices, as keyboard
works fine, mouse does not. Wired ps2 mouse works fine (currently using
it).
Anyone else noticed?
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ksh shrm wrote:
I used that liveusb-creator-2.7
adios
KSH SHRM
Try running "syslinux -s /dev/sdX1" replacing X with the proper
drive letter for you pen drive.
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su, 2008-07-27 kello 11:29 +0100, Marcelo M. Garcia kirjoitti:
> Hi.
>
> I'm suspicious that PulseAudio is not starting properly after kernel
> updates. For example, if I start Skype, I got the message: "problem with
> audio playback". Or if I try "Applications->Sound & Video->PulseAudio
> Volu
Hello,
I used to use printconf-tui -Xexport and printconf-tui -Ximport to copy
printer configuration from one machine to another so that for machines on the
same network I only have to set printer by hand once with
system-config-printer.
It seems that this feature no longer exists in Fedora 8. W
Thank you for the advice, I am now able to set my background to what I
want. Now I need to figure out how to stretch it across both displays
and install that quick launcher.
Thank you again
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Florian Sievert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, I am running
On Sunday 27 July 2008 03:40, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> On Jul 26, 2008, Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But the system without a kernel has *precisely zero* usability.
>
> Yet you provided and cited the counter-example yourself: the boot
> loader required to load the kernel, and that
On Jul 27, 2008, inode0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Fedora, Ubuntu, and other distributions probably describe their
> operating systems as Linux-based in a feeble attempt to not offend
> people on either side of this insanity.
Right. So, let's say, there's a dispute as to whether you or I wrote
On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 22:09 +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
> 2008/7/11 Rick Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Mark Haney wrote:
> >>
> >> Glen Grantham wrote:
> >>>
> >>> My system is an AMD 64 Athlon X2 4600+ on a
> >>> GIGABYTE S-Series GA-MA74GM-S2H motherboard
> >>> with a 320GB EIDE WD Caviar SE 720
On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 20:54 +0930, Tim wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 00:24 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > I'm not arguing,
>
> No, never... ;-)
>
> > but
>
> Okay, I'll let you argue... ;-)
>
> > a) you admit you haven't used KDE4 (or did I misunderstand?).
>
> "Hadn't"... Curiosit
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008, Bjoern Schiessle wrote:
Hello,
since my kernel upgrade from 2.6.25.10-86.fc9.x86_64 to
2.6.25.11-97.fc9.x86_64 my wlan nic stopped working.
I had the similar problem. It seems the GUI package manager failed to
update the iwl4965-firmware package, but doing a yum update f
On Jul 27, 2008, Antonio Olivares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nobody is claiming that they do not deserve credit, but many do not
> want the pushing on of their agenda :(
Exactly. And that's why they invent all these excuses. And they even
fail to understand that the principles that led to the
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
First of, here is the smolt profile for the machine:
http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_4e28d6bb-5fee-4152-a260-f08ff80399e5
Check the link there on the Atheros card for info on what I have done
with it so far.
The gist of the matter is that "as is" if the notebook li
FC8-i386, Kde, FireFox-3 .
Can't get "Send Link" in FF3 to open up Thunderbird as Email client.
FF3, Under Edit > Preferences > Applications the setting for "Mailto" is
Thunderbird Default.
I also have Gnome-Control-Center installed and default Mail is set to
Thunderbird .
What is not set,
Hello to all of you!
First; please excuse my bad english, I really do give my best... ;-)
Here's my problem:
I've got an older pc (Asus Cusi-M)
with Celeron(1100MHz),
500MB RAM.
As I tried to boot the installation-dvd (which works with nearly every
other distribution, e.g.ubuntu does and is in
Verily I say unto thee, that Erik P. Olsen spake thusly:
> On 27/07/08 03:53, Keith G. Robertson-Turner wrote:
>> Verily I say unto thee, that Bob Marcan spake thusly:
>> (Original subject: clamav 0.93 on Fedora 8)
>>
>>> Will this ever happen ?
>>
>> For some reason the Fedora 8 packages for Cl
Alexandre Oliva wrote:
Nobody is claiming that they do not deserve credit, but many do not
want the pushing on of their agenda :(
Exactly. And that's why they invent all these excuses. And they even
fail to understand that the principles that led to the creation of all
this software is the
M A Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I had the similar problem. It seems the GUI package manager failed to update
> the iwl4965-firmware package, but doing a yum update fixed it.
thank you! "yum update" worked for me too.
I'm quite new to Fedora so i wonder how such things can happen? The
ker
Bjoern Schiessle wrote:
> M A Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I had the similar problem. It seems the GUI package manager failed to
> > update the iwl4965-firmware package, but doing a yum update fixed it.
>
> thank you! "yum update" worked for me too.
>
> I'm quite new to Fedora so i wonder
On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 10:08 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> Sorry Tim, I thought you were one of those complaining about KDE4
> compared to KDE3, when in fact you're arguing for Gnome over KDE.
> That's fine, but it's a different discussion.
There's a bit of both. I definitely think Gnome is
Hi,
I have winXP installed in my lapop.
When installing it i choose to create a new partition (D:) that i was intending
to use for fedora8.
After installing fedora 8, now i have both operating systems windows uses c:
(20GB) i have D: accessible from windows that i can format to either FAT or
Hi,
I have winXP installed in my lapop.
When installing it i choose to create a new partition (D:) that i was intending
to use for fedora8.
After installing fedora 8, now i have both operating systems windows uses c:
(20GB) i have D: accessible from windows that i can format to either FAT or
On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 02:27 +0930, Tim wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 10:08 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Sorry Tim, I thought you were one of those complaining about KDE4
> > compared to KDE3, when in fact you're arguing for Gnome over KDE.
> > That's fine, but it's a different discussion.
Hi to all!
I'm new to this list and I wonder if my mail reaches the list or not.
So do I get my message back by default?
Because I already sent a mail, but didn't get it from the list...
Please excuse my english ;-)
Greetz, Chris
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:09:01 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi to all!
>
> I'm new to this list and I wonder if my mail reaches the list or not.
>
> So do I get my message back by default?
>
> Because I already sent a mail, but didn't get it from the list...
>
> Please excuse my english ;
Björn Persson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I guess the firmware package hadn't yet reached the mirror you used
> when you upgraded the kernel. Later, when you ran yum update, the
> firmware package was there, or maybe Yum chose another mirror.
Thank you for the explanation!
But shouldn't the to
Am Sonntag, den 27.07.2008, 19:26 +0200 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:09:01 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hi to all!
> >
> > I'm new to this list and I wonder if my mail reaches the list or not.
> >
> > So do I get my message back by default?
> >
> > Because I alre
On Sunday 27 July 2008 14:09:01 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Hi to all!
>
> I'm new to this list and I wonder if my mail reaches the list or not.
>
> So do I get my message back by default?
>
> Because I already sent a mail, but didn't get it from the list...
>
> Please excuse my english ;-)
>
> Gr
On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 19:09 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi to all!
>
> I'm new to this list and I wonder if my mail reaches the list or not.
>
> So do I get my message back by default?
>
> Because I already sent a mail, but didn't get it from the list...
>
> Please excuse my english ;-)
Earlier this week I attempted a 'yum update' on one of my Fedora 9
systems and it failed. I have two Fedora 9 systems behind my
firewall and the firewall machine itself runs an earlier version of
Fedora communicating with the net via DSL.
The yum failure was because I could not download
glibc-comm
Am Sonntag, den 27.07.2008, 10:47 -0700 schrieb Craig White:
> On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 19:09 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi to all!
> >
> > I'm new to this list and I wonder if my mail reaches the list or not.
> >
> > So do I get my message back by default?
> >
> > Because I already sent
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008, Björn Persson wrote:
I guess the firmware package hadn't yet reached the mirror you used when you
upgraded the kernel. Later, when you ran yum update, the firmware package was
there, or maybe Yum chose another mirror.
The problem is that the iwl4965 firmware package was ou
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 07:17:05AM -0500, Mike Chambers wrote:
>
> After latest updates (last day or two), my wireless mouse quit working.
> Logitech wireless keyboard/mouse combo are the devices, as keyboard
> works fine, mouse does not. Wired ps2 mouse works fine (currently using
> it).
>
> An
Where to run "syslinux -s /dev/sdX1" ?
adios
KSH SHRM
People don't care how much you know, until they know how much you care...
2008/7/27 Mikkel L. Ellertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ksh shrm wrote:
>
>> I used that liveusb-creator-2.7
>>
>> adios
>>
>> KSH SHRM
>>
>> Try running "syslinux -s /d
On Sunday 27 July 2008 12:24:19 Tim wrote:
> The new menus were tedious and slow to use, in even more annoying ways
> than the old menus. Who thought that click, wait, menus sliding out of
> site to be replaced with a submenu moving into the box, was going to be
> a useful thing to do? It's as ba
On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 09:03 -0400, TechList wrote:
> Hello,
> I used to use printconf-tui -Xexport and printconf-tui -Ximport to copy
> printer configuration from one machine to another so that for machines on the
> same network I only have to set printer by hand once with
> system-config-print
On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 10:08 -0700, Adil Drissi wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have winXP installed in my laptop.
>
> When installing it i choose to create a new partition (D:) that i was
> intending to use for fedora8.
>
> After installing fedora 8, now i have both operating systems windows uses c:
> (20
Ed Greshko wrote:
Oh, goodie Another thread to filter...
at least it is only a '+' click with thunderbird. :o)
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Craig White wrote:
if you go back to my original post - nowhere did I ever make mention of
Firefox, nor did Andy who confirmed the problem.
well, in your own words 'leap to conclusions do we?', seems to include
you in that 'we'. i do not find that i made reference to which post.
therefore, f
Hi, i reinstalled fedora before reading your message. I did it in my way i
removed the two windows partitions in the installation process. Now i have in
the file system some 24GB. I have another problem now. I trying to install gcc
because i didn't choose to do so during the installation process
Hi,
I retarted my machine the problem seem fixed.
Thanks
--- On Sun, 7/27/08, Adil Drissi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Adil Drissi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Fedora 8 and partitioning
> To: "For users of Fedora" , "Aaron Konstam" <[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, July 27, 2
On Sunday 27 July 2008 03:54:44 pm Aaron Konstam wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 09:03 -0400, TechList wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I used to use printconf-tui -Xexport and printconf-tui -Ximport to copy
> > printer configuration from one machine to another so that for machines on
> > the same network I on
On Sunday 27 July 2008 05:03:32 pm Adil Drissi wrote:
> Hi, i reinstalled fedora before reading your message. I did it in my way i
> removed the two windows partitions in the installation process. Now i have
> in the file system some 24GB. I have another problem now. I trying to
> install gcc becau
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:51:29 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 27.07.2008, 10:47 -0700 schrieb Craig White:
> > On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 19:09 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Hi to all!
> > >
> > > I'm new to this list and I wonder if my mail reaches the list or not.
> > >
>
Antti J. Huhtala wrote:
su, 2008-07-27 kello 11:29 +0100, Marcelo M. Garcia kirjoitti:
Yes, same and similar problems. I haven't tried Skype but when I
redirected gtreamer stream to USB headphones instead of the usual
loudspeakers of my Athlon64 desktop, Rhythmbox would play one track for
a co
I'm changing the Subject: header because some people who are not
reading the thread seem to have inferred, from the unchanging subject,
that the original huge thread was all about a single topic.
Although this particular topic would probably be a better fit for
fedora-legal, I believe most of its
On Sunday 27 July 2008 14:54, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> > They just want you to push on their agenda. What do you get out of it?
>
> Err... I happen to work for the goals I myself believe in. That's
> why I co-founded FSFLA, a completely autonomous organization. It just
> so happens to pursue th
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 9:59 AM, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>>
>> First of, here is the smolt profile for the machine:
>> http://www.smolts.org/client/show/pub_4e28d6bb-5fee-4152-a260-f08ff80399e5
>>
>> Check the link there on the Atheros card for info on what I have d
Dear all,
I have read some good news(I hope), that Atheros will be releasing some new
drivers for Atheros based wireless. I hope that it will be better than the
ath5k which was ported from OpenBSD and then fixed! How soon can we see this
new driver in Fedora?
If I am not mistaken it is named
On Jul 26, 2008, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gordon Messmer wrote:
>> In the context of a legal interpretation of a distribution license
>> (copyright license), "work as a whole" does not mean each individual
>> part.
> Of course it does, or proprietary parts could be included - or
On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 10:47 -0700, Craig White wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 19:09 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi to all!
> >
> > I'm new to this list and I wonder if my mail reaches the list or not.
> >
> > So do I get my message back by default?
> >
> > Because I already sent a mail,
Keith G. Robertson-Turner wrote:
Also I'm still investigating the legality of building unrar against GPL
sources. I think this is not a question of whether the author gives his
permission to distribute freeware, but more a question of whether GPL
software can be linked to proprietary software.
Trouble in F8 land too. I have switched kernel but it doesn't work.
The new kernel is 2.6.25.11-60.fc8. I'm
typing this from 2.6.25.6-27.fc8 but still no audio. I have tried
rebuilding pulseaudio but after more than an
hour, I'm giving up. At first, I had to purge pulseaudio - yum erase
pulseau
On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 17:31 -0400, TechList wrote:
> On Sunday 27 July 2008 03:54:44 pm Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 09:03 -0400, TechList wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > I used to use printconf-tui -Xexport and printconf-tui -Ximport to copy
> > > printer configuration from one machin
> I'm changing the Subject: header because some people who
> are not
> reading the thread seem to have inferred, from the
> unchanging subject,
> that the original huge thread was all about a single topic.
>
> Although this particular topic would probably be a better
> fit for
> fedora-legal, I be
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
For one, I am also a believer in FOSS and all that, am willing to acknowledge
appropriate credit to GNU, as a user I can say it is pretty good software.
Given that, I could even go that far to accept the name GNU/Linux ;-) , but
somehow I still refrain from doing so. Wh
On Thursday 24 July 2008 12:49:30 pm Konstantin Svist wrote:
> Christoph Höger wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 23.07.2008, 16:18 -0700 schrieb Konstantin Svist:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I've noticed a problem with NM recently (might've happened after a
> >> system update, not 100% sure when it started).
> >>
--- On Sun, 7/27/08, Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From: Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: a long rebuttal to the Linux-is-the-engine fallacy
> To: "For users of Fedora"
> Date: Sunday, July 27, 2008, 3:40 PM
> On Sunday 27 July 2008 14:54, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>
Marko Vojinovic wrote:
On Sunday 27 July 2008 03:40, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
On Jul 26, 2008, Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
But the system without a kernel has *precisely zero* usability.
Yet you provided and cited the counter-example yourself: the boot
loader required to load the
Antonio Olivares wrote:
When this project was born, RMS should have demanded right then and
there that the project be named GNU/Linux, I have read that he
suggested LiGNUX, but that it sounded awkward
At the time, RMS had no reason to suggest any such thing. When he was
suggesting names for L
2008/7/27 M A Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Sun, 27 Jul 2008, Bjoern Schiessle wrote:
>
> Hello,
>>
>> since my kernel upgrade from 2.6.25.10-86.fc9.x86_64 to
>> 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.x86_64 my wlan nic stopped working.
>>
>
> I had the similar problem. It seems the GUI package manager failed to
> up
Antonio Olivares wrote:
I have gotten more of an insight on this issue and I have to say that
although you have many good points, Les has very good points as well.
I have gotten some input regarding issues with GPL.
...
/* name withheld to protect the identity of this previous GPL author
*/
Y
Alexandre Oliva wrote:
On Jul 26, 2008, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Gordon Messmer wrote:
In the context of a legal interpretation of a distribution license
(copyright license), "work as a whole" does not mean each individual
part.
Of course it does, or proprietary parts could b
Antonio Olivares wrote:
I know I will hear some comments, but these are some of the reasons why many developers try to avoid the GPL. Here's probably the strongest case against it.
The GPL is an "universal receiver" of software from other licenses but it
does not allow GPL code to move t
> At the time, RMS had no reason to suggest any such thing.
> When he was
> suggesting names for Linus' kernel, the difference
> between the GNU OS
> and the then-unnamed kernel was a common understanding.
> People had not
> yet begun to incorrectly refer to the GNU OS as Linux.
>
> --
It i
Alexandre Oliva wrote:
If the FSF doesn't not believe that the work-as-a-whole clause
actually means the terms must cover the work as a whole,
It does. The terms are permissions, the conditions are requirements
for the exercise of the permissions.
GPL terms are not only permissions, they a
On Jul 27, 2008, Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Memtest runs under the bios operating system.
Nope. It does rely on probing and some BIOS configuration tables to
find out what it's running on, but that's about it. No operating
system involved.
> No program runs without some sort
On Jul 27, 2008, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Perhaps no code is shared, but what about the design?
GNU's not Unix. The credit for the design is right there in the name.
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> > I have gotten more of an insight on this issue and I
> have to say that
> > although you have many good points, Les has very good
> points as well.
> > I have gotten some input regarding issues with GPL.
> ...
> > /* name withheld to protect the identity of this
> previous GPL author
> > */
>
Gordon Messmer wrote:
>
Well, the kernel's purpose is to load other, more sophisticated
applications. Again, there's no magic in the Linux kernel. It's just a
program, like all of the others.
I'd call fork() and exec() somewhat magic in this context, seeing as how
no unix program but init
On Jul 27, 2008, Gordon Messmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In the early 1990s we probably needed the GPL, but now it is no
>> longer needed because it does not allow collaboration between
>> different OpenSource communities.
> More nonsense. Nothing significant has changed since the 1990's.
On Jul 27, 2008, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>> IOW, the whole is under the terms and conditions of the GPL. The
>> permissions (1-3, in GPLv2) apply to each and every part as a
>> consequence of this.
> Not _just_ the permissions. The exact terms of the lice
> >> IOW, the whole is under the terms and conditions
> of the GPL. The
> >> permissions (1-3, in GPLv2) apply to each and
> every part as a
> >> consequence of this.
>
> > Not _just_ the permissions. The exact terms of the
> license must
> > apply:
>
> Exactly. And the GPL *is* a set of permis
On Jul 26, 2008, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd prefer that the Linux based distros had shared more of the
> BSD-origin work rather than the GPL-encumbered GNU copies.
Obviously. Have you ever wondered why?
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Free Sof
Verily I say unto thee, that Rahul Sundaram spake thusly:
> Keith G. Robertson-Turner wrote:
>> Also I'm still investigating the legality of building unrar against
>> GPL sources. I think this is not a question of whether the author
>> gives his permission to distribute freeware, but more a questi
On Jul 26, 2008, Gordon Messmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Theo continued to complain about the lack of cooperation between the
> Linux driver authors and the original OpenBSD developers. The problem
> that he perceived was that the Linux driver developers created a
> derived work, and the code
On Jul 26, 2008, Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sure, RMS and GNU did begin to create an operating system, but failed to
> finish it
before Linus took the "unfinished" OS and finished it himself. IOW,
Linus completed GNU?
> And now they ask for credit? For what? For cloning&enhan
On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 13:49 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> > > I have also found a page in which it clearly explains
> > some problems with
> > > the GPL
> > The analogy
> > collapses once you realize that information can not be
> > moved, only copied,
> > and matter can not be copied, only mo
On Sat, 2008-07-26 at 10:29 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> which is an interesting read as well. Here's a quote taken directly from it
>
> "if you add 'large pieces of originality' to the code which are valid
> for copyright protection on their own, you may choose to put a
> different and sepa
On Jul 26, 2008, Antonio Olivares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If there was no kernel, the GNU operating system would not have gone
> anywhere
It would have completed it eventually, or someone else would have
developed another kernel that would work with GNU. ATM we have at
least 4.
> without t
> Unix/opensolaris/freebsd/openbsd??? What other operating
> system
> combines its name with a political movement?
>
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which apparently runs on MACS. Question here is which has more users, the
above system or the LinuxPPC which is Linux
> > If there was no kernel, the GNU operating system would
> not have gone
> > anywhere
>
> It would have completed it eventually, or someone else
> would have
> developed another kernel that would work with GNU. ATM we
> have at
> least 4.
>
> > without the GNU tools, where would Linux be?
>
>
su, 2008-07-27 kello 23:34 +0100, Andrea kirjoitti:
> Antti J. Huhtala wrote:
> > su, 2008-07-27 kello 11:29 +0100, Marcelo M. Garcia kirjoitti:
> >>
> > Yes, same and similar problems. I haven't tried Skype but when I
> > redirected gtreamer stream to USB headphones instead of the usual
> > loudsp
On Jul 27, 2008, Marko Vojinovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You know, I don't want to be rude or hostile in any way, but I just
> can't help this feeling that the (noble) reasons you state above are
> somehow in a disharmony with your behavior (ie. your posts) in this
> thread.
I've already cov
On Jul 27, 2008, Gordon Messmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Antonio Olivares wrote:
>> When this project was born, RMS should have demanded right then and
>> there that the project be named GNU/Linux, I have read that he
>> suggested LiGNUX, but that it sounded awkward
> At the time, RMS had no
Alexandre Oliva wrote:
On Jul 26, 2008, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'd prefer that the Linux based distros had shared more of the
BSD-origin work rather than the GPL-encumbered GNU copies.
Obviously. Have you ever wondered why?
If you are stuck with the viral nature of the GPL
On Jul 27, 2008, Antonio Olivares <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There is not much we can do to help.
Of course there is. If you want to help, call it GNU/Linux, or
GNU+Linux. That's all we ask for.
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2006-August/msg00101.html
Hear, hear.
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Alexandre Oliva wrote:
2b is not a "terms" of the license, it is a condition for you to be
entitled to modify and distribute the work, or modified versions of
it, under the GPL. If you want to distribute it under another
license, and you have some additional permission to do so, it doesn't
get
Here's my problem:
I've got an older pc (Asus Cusi-M)
with Celeron(1100MHz),
500MB RAM.
As I tried to boot the installation-dvd (which works with nearly every
other distribution, e.g.ubuntu does and is installed) it hanging
directly after starting isolinux. it shows me a boot> prompt and wants
Antonio Olivares wrote:
Here's an example of a case that the GPL has not helped the original
author
http://www.linux.com/feature/57131
The case is still pending :(, but pretty much the abusers or bad guys
can get away with a great deal. This is unfortunate to the original
authors despite havin
Oh, goodieyet another subject to trash. Can't you "people" just stick
to one lousy thread?
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On Jul 27, 2008, Les Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alexandre Oliva wrote:
>> John A. Hacker develops, from scratch, a program that contains two
>> source files: lib.c and main.c. [...] John A. publishes the
>> whole, named gnothing, under the GPLv2+, and never publishes lib.c
>> in any o
On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 18:57 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> I set up a Search Folder in Evolution to
> show my posts in context with the rest of the thread. Works fine.
>
Could you elaborate on that?
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On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 17:31 -0400, TechList wrote:
> Right now there are two situation. One situation, is that I have 1 machine
> that acts as a print server with the printer physically connected to it (e.g
> via USB port). Say I have 5 other computers on the LAN, I have to configure
> printer o
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