[Foundation-l] FYI: Wikipedia, Open Access and Cognitive Virology

2010-05-22 Thread Stevan Harnad
David Goodman gives a very fair and accurate summary of our interactions in the AmSci Forum (though I would not have said that some were unfriendly -- just impatient, on my part; and if anything, I'm even more impatient now that another half-decade has gone by and we still don't have universal OA!)

Re: [Foundation-l] FYI: Wikipedia, Open Access and Cognitive Virology

2010-05-15 Thread William Pietri
On 05/15/2010 02:27 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > But we do have serious competition, and it is scary and thrilling - it > also happens to be published entirely in Chinese (hudong, baike). But > even if you don't know how to read Chinese, you can see how they > display portals and amin pages; images,

Re: [Foundation-l] FYI: Wikipedia, Open Access and Cognitive Virology

2010-05-15 Thread David Goodman
Some background: When I was a librarian open access was one of the principal things I worked on. Stevan has been for over 10 years an acknowledged leaders in this field, and his propaganda for open access has been a key factor for the considerable success it has had--by now all major US and UK gra

Re: [Foundation-l] FYI: Wikipedia, Open Access and Cognitive Virology

2010-05-15 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 1:45 PM, William Pietri wrote: > Of course, if somebody, those folks included, think they can build a > better encyclopedia, I'd encourage them to try. And I don't mean that in > a snotty way; it would be useful to Wikipedia to have some serious > competition. Just this we

Re: [Foundation-l] FYI: Wikipedia, Open Access and Cognitive Virology

2010-05-15 Thread phoebe ayers
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 6:22 AM, Klaus Graf wrote: > Stevan Harnad in the American Scientist Open Access Forum: > > On Sat, 15 May 2010, Barbara Kirsop [Electronic Publishing Trust for > Development] wrote: > > What is very confusing about [the SAGE survey's] call for feedback is > the title ["Ope

Re: [Foundation-l] FYI: Wikipedia, Open Access and Cognitive Virology

2010-05-15 Thread William Pietri
On 05/15/2010 06:22 AM, Klaus Graf wrote: > So there we are: OA's biggest canard and nemesis, being daily, > cumulatively, canonized and amplified by Wikipedia, riding the recursive > tide of its own notability and notoriety (as an infectious virus, > cheerfully propagated by the denizens of Wikipe

[Foundation-l] FYI: Wikipedia, Open Access and Cognitive Virology

2010-05-15 Thread Klaus Graf
Stevan Harnad in the American Scientist Open Access Forum: On Sat, 15 May 2010, Barbara Kirsop [Electronic Publishing Trust for Development] wrote: What is very confusing about [the SAGE survey's] call for feedback is the title ["Open Access Publishing"]. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/soap_survey