Nope. It's off by default. I had switched it on for one of the PDF
generations, because I was hoping to use the import comments from PDF to
Frame, but it turns out that really isn't as useful as I'd hoped, so the
next time I created the PDF, I made sure it was off.
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:37 P
Has anyone had an issue with the size of a generated PDF increasing
dramatically after moving a book from FM10 to FM12 (or any earlier version
of FM to FM12)?
I've got a book that's gone from under 3M to over 12M, and that's AFTER
running the Save as Reduced Size.
Is this a bug, have I not set so
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Subject: FM12: PDF file size exploding
From: ljsims...@gmail.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Has anyone had an issue with the size of a generated PDF increasing
dramatically after moving a book from FM10 to FM12 (or any earlier version of
FM to FM12)?
I've got a book tha
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> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:26:35 -0500
> Subject: FM12: PDF file size exploding
> From: ljsims...@gmail.com
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>
>
> Has anyone had an issue with the size of a generated PDF increasing
> dramatically after moving a book from
r
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:26:35 -0500
Subject: FM12: PDF file size exploding
From: ljsims...@gmail.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Has anyone had an issue with the size of a generated PDF increasing
dramatically after moving a book from FM10 to FM12 (or any earlier version of
FM to FM12)?
access, spending more than a few seconds worrying about 10 MB in
> file size does not yield a good return on investment.
>
> -Fred Ridder
>
> --
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:26:35 -0500
> Subject: FM12: PDF file size exploding
> From: ljsims...@gma
rs.com
Subject: RE: FM12: PDF file size exploding
Not to minimize your question, but...
With the cost of computer storage running about $0.10 per gigabyte for hard
disk or $0.50 per gigabyte for SSD, I'm not sure it's worthwhile worrying about
10 MB more or less. That's less than 1/2 ce
your query because many of us
have had no need to pay attention to this issue.
-FR
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:18:11 -0500
Subject: Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
From: ljsims...@gmail.com
To: docu...@hotmail.com
CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
The PDF has to be posted as a shared review on a
ttention to this issue.
>
> -FR
>
> --
> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:18:11 -0500
> Subject: Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
> From: ljsims...@gmail.com
> To: docu...@hotmail.com
> CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>
>
> The PDF has to be posted as a shared
-Fred Ridder
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:26:35 -0500
Subject: FM12: PDF file size exploding
From: ljsims...@gmail.com <mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com>
To: framers@lists.frame
eed for them to do so. Yes, there
will always be certain circumstances where size matters; but for most of us, it
simply is what it is.
-FR
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:49:51 -0500
Subject: Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
From: ljsims...@gmail.com
To: docu...@hotmail.com
CC: framers@lists.fram
he cost of computer storage running about $0.10 per gigabyte for
>> hard disk or $0.50 per gigabyte for SSD, I'm not sure it's worthwhile
>> worrying about 10 MB more or less. That's less than 1/2 cent's worth of
>> storage space. Unless you know your documents are
...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Lin Sims
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 2:08 PM
To: Scott Prentice
Cc: Frame Users
Subject: Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
Ah! More information I left out!
The book is an unstructured book, but it includes 3 files that were
red Ridder
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 10:59 AM
To: Lin Sims
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: FM12: PDF file size exploding
And I wasn't jumping on you, either, Lin. I wanted to clarify to several others
who had replied (off-list and on-) that they have similar concerns to
Try Tools > Protection > Remove Hidden Information. Even if you only select
something like Hidden text, it removes a lot of other things like reader
extensions, review and forms workflows, and information added by third-party
applications. It can reduce the file size significantly.
David
Boss C
Thanks for the tip. I tried removing everything but the metadata (which was
only the doc title), but it only trimmed about 2Mb off and took the
bookmarks with it.
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:36 PM, David Boss wrote:
> Try Tools > Protection > Remove Hidden Information. Even if you only select
> so
communications.com/> www.bosscommunications.com /
www.bossphotographic.com
From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com]
Sent: February-18-15 2:16 PM
To: David Boss
Cc: Frame Users
Subject: Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
Thanks for the tip. I tried removing everything but the metadata (wh
reduction is minimal.
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>
>
> David
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> *Boss Communications / Boss Photographic*
>
> www.bosscommunications.com / www.bossphotographic.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* February-18-15 2:16 PM
> *To:* David Bos
To: David Boss
Cc: Frame Users
Subject: Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
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Thanks for the tip. I tried removing everything but the metadata (which was
only the doc title), but it only trimmed about 2Mb off and took the
avid
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> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 14:16:20 -0500
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> To: David Boss
> Cc: Frame Users
> Subject: Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
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If that happened to me, I'd still want to know where the bloat was
coming from. PDFs larger than 10MB still present problems for me on
occasion, and files becoming 4X larger without any additional data
strongly suggests that a property setting was inappropriately changed
in the upgrade or some new
Are of the image compression options different?
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Lin Sims wrote:
> Nope. It's off by default. I had switched it on for one of the PDF
> generations, because I was hoping to use the import comments from PDF to
> Frame, but it turns out that really isn't as useful a
Nope. All the images are SVGs that are copied into the file (yes, I know,
but we're kinda stuck with that as part of the process).
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Robert Lauriston
wrote:
> Are of the image compression options different?
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Lin Sims wrote:
> >
Maybe there's a change in how FrameMaker 12 handles SVGs when
generating PDFs? Could the rasterization quality default have changed?
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Lin Sims wrote:
> Nope. All the images are SVGs that are copied into the file (yes, I know,
> but we're kinda stuck with that as p
Shoot, you're right. Adobe finally fixed the SVG generation into PDF so
that the SVG graphics are searchable again. Or so they say, I haven't
actually tried to search for anything.
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Robert Lauriston
wrote:
> Maybe there's a change in how FrameMaker 12 handles SV
And, just testing it, but Adobe Acrobat was not able to find text inside a
graphic, which was a big reason why we upgraded. I'll have to look into
that, but I bet you're right, Robert. I bet that's the cause.
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Lin Sims wrote:
>
>
> Shoot, you're right. Adobe fina
FYI to all, I changed the image compression options from JPEG to off, since
we only use either SVGs or PNGs in our documents.
The file size dropped dramatically. As in, it's back to what I expected.
Now if I can just get the text within the SVG graphics to be searchable (a
major reason for the up
That seems bizarre.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Lin Sims wrote:
> FYI to all, I changed the image compression options from JPEG to off, since
> we only use either SVGs or PNGs in our documents.
>
> The file size dropped dramatically. As in, it's back to what I expected.
_
It does a bit, doesn't it? I've never really dug into Distiller, so I'm
going to spend some time with the PDF Creation Settings manual and see if
it sheds any light on the issue.
This is the first job I've ever had that actually created a customized
joboptions file. Always before, I picked Standar
Would a corrupt .joboptions file result in the sort of file size increase I
saw? I just tried creating a PDF using the Standard option, and everything
was fine.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Lin Sims wrote:
> It does a bit, doesn't it? I've never really dug into Distiller, so I'm
> going to s
Seems plausible. Inappropriate .joboptions settings can cause massive bloat.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Lin Sims wrote:
> Would a corrupt .joboptions file result in the sort of file size increase I
> saw? I just tried creating a PDF using the Standard option, and everything
> was fine.
>
>
And that's what it was. When I replaced the copy I had with a clean
version, generated a PDF, then used the Save As Reduced size, it came out
perfectly.
Seriously, you'd think I'd be happier about solving the problem, but what a
bloody piddly thing it turned out to be to take all that time to fix.
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