Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread sthaug
> > Unless I hear too many cries "don't do that" (with justification), I > > plan to not create any perl symlinks in /usr/bin in the forthcoming > > upgrade of both lang/perl5.8 (to 5.8.6) and lang/perl5 (to 5.6.2). This > > will ONLY be true for FreeBSD 5.X and FreeBSD CURRENT; the existing > >

Re: Linking problems with gcc 3.4.2 and glibc on 5.3-stable

2005-01-29 Thread Chris
I mean them downloading from the psybnc website and installing from that tarball, I guess an option I can provide is to compile from ports and make some sort of script to install the binaries to the user's dir. Chris On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 21:10:53 +1300, Jonathan Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Chris
Changing this so it affects 5-STABLE is suicide it will annoy a lot of user's and draw people away from FreeBSD to other platforms, I dont see any benefit from doing this the symlinks have caused me no ill effect whatsoever Chris On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:51:37 -0700, Scott Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Scott Long
Anton Berezin wrote: Unless I hear too many cries "don't do that" (with justification), I plan to not create any perl symlinks in /usr/bin in the forthcoming upgrade of both lang/perl5.8 (to 5.8.6) and lang/perl5 (to 5.6.2). This will ONLY be true for FreeBSD 5.X and FreeBSD CURRENT; the existing

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Edwin Groothuis
On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 11:51:36PM -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Andrew McNaughton wrote: > #!/usr/bin/env PERL5OPT='-w' perl "#!/usr/bin/perl -w" sounds much easier. Edwin -- Edwin Groothuis |Personal website: http://www.mavetju.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Weblog: http:

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Chuck Swiger
Andrew McNaughton wrote: On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Chuck Swiger wrote: [ ... ] Well-behaved 3rd party scripts ought to start Perl via: #! /usr/bin/env perl ...so long as /usr/local/bin is in the $PATH, they should still work fine. I commonly use this approach, but I run into some problems with flags. P

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Lars Erik Gullerud
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Anton Berezin wrote: Unless I hear too many cries "don't do that" (with justification), I plan to not create any perl symlinks in /usr/bin in the forthcoming upgrade of both lang/perl5.8 (to 5.8.6) and lang/perl5 (to 5.6.2). This will ONLY be true for FreeBSD 5.X and FreeBSD C

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Andrew McNaughton
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Chuck Swiger wrote: Oliver Lehmann wrote: Anton Berezin wrote: In practical terms this will mean a one-time sweep of your scripts in order to convert them, in a typical case, from #! /usr/bin/perl to #! /usr/local/bin/perl. Wouldn't that break most of the 3rd party scripts out

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Andrew McNaughton
On Sun, 30 Jan 2005, Matthias Andree wrote: Oliver Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Anton Berezin wrote: In practical terms this will mean a one-time sweep of your scripts in order to convert them, in a typical case, from #! /usr/bin/perl to #! /usr/local/bin/perl. Wouldn't that break most of t

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sun, Jan 30, 2005 at 03:39:51AM +0100, Matthias Andree wrote: > Oliver Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Anton Berezin wrote: > > > >> In practical terms this will mean a one-time sweep of your scripts in > >> order to convert them, in a typical case, from #! /usr/bin/perl to > >> #! /u

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Matthias Andree
Oliver Lehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Anton Berezin wrote: > >> In practical terms this will mean a one-time sweep of your scripts in >> order to convert them, in a typical case, from #! /usr/bin/perl to >> #! /usr/local/bin/perl. > > Wouldn't that break most of the 3rd party scripts out in

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Max Laier
On Saturday 29 January 2005 21:24, Anton Berezin wrote: > Unless I hear too many cries "don't do that" (with justification), I Please, "don't do that"! http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#DEFINE-POLA -- /"\ Best regards, | [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ /

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Douglas G. Allen
Anton, Unless I hear too many cries "don't do that" (with justification), I plan to not create any perl symlinks in /usr/bin in the forthcoming upgrade of both lang/perl5.8 (to 5.8.6) and lang/perl5 (to 5.6.2). This will ONLY be true for FreeBSD 5.X and FreeBSD CURRENT; the existing pollution of

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Sat, 2005-Jan-29 21:24:25 +0100, Anton Berezin wrote: >In practical terms this will mean a one-time sweep of your scripts in >order to convert them, in a typical case, from #! /usr/bin/perl to >#! /usr/local/bin/perl. I'd also like to object. The perl documentation has consistently stated that

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Fred Condo
On Jan 29, 2005, at 12:58 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 09:24:25PM +0100, Anton Berezin wrote: Unless I hear too many cries "don't do that" (with justification), I plan to not create any perl symlinks in /usr/bin in the forthcoming upgrade of both lang/perl5.8 (to 5.8.6) and lang

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Edwin Groothuis
On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 10:17:47PM +0100, Anton Berezin wrote: > On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 10:09:05PM +0100, Oliver Lehmann wrote: > > Anton Berezin wrote: > > > > > In practical terms this will mean a one-time sweep of your scripts in > > > order to convert them, in a typical case, from #! /usr/bin

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Phil Kernick
Anton Berezin wrote: Unless I hear too many cries "don't do that" (with justification), I plan to not create any perl symlinks in /usr/bin in the forthcoming upgrade of both lang/perl5.8 (to 5.8.6) and lang/perl5 (to 5.6.2). This will ONLY be true for FreeBSD 5.X and FreeBSD CURRENT; the existing

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Dimitry Andric
On 2005-01-29 at 21:24:25 Anton Berezin wrote: > Unless I hear too many cries "don't do that" (with justification), I > plan to not create any perl symlinks in /usr/bin in the forthcoming > upgrade of both lang/perl5.8 (to 5.8.6) and lang/perl5 (to 5.6.2). This > will ONLY be true for FreeBSD 5.X

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Chuck Swiger wrote: Well-behaved 3rd party scripts ought to start Perl via: #! /usr/bin/env perl ...so long as /usr/local/bin is in the $PATH, they should still work fine. It seems that this usage is not that common. On my 5.3R system the stats are: 1101 scripts ending in .pl 490 of these have #

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Robert Watson
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005, Oliver Lehmann wrote: > Anton Berezin wrote: > > > In practical terms this will mean a one-time sweep of your scripts in > > order to convert them, in a typical case, from #! /usr/bin/perl to > > #! /usr/local/bin/perl. > > Wouldn't that break most of the 3rd party scripts o

Re: Seemingly odd disc i/o behaviour, need help to diagnose

2005-01-29 Thread Doug White
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Oren Baum wrote: > Description of Server configuration and problems. > > Configuration: > > FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE > apache+mod_ssl-1.3.22+2.8.5_1 > mysql-server-3.23.42 > Hard Drive (dual ATA disks, no RAID) on a Dell P4 PowerEDGE server It bears mentioning again ... these rele

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 04:19:21PM -0500, Chuck Swiger wrote: > Oliver Lehmann wrote: > >Anton Berezin wrote: > >>In practical terms this will mean a one-time sweep of your scripts in > >>order to convert them, in a typical case, from #! /usr/bin/perl to > >>#! /usr/local/bin/perl. > > > >Wouldn't

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Chuck Swiger
Oliver Lehmann wrote: Anton Berezin wrote: In practical terms this will mean a one-time sweep of your scripts in order to convert them, in a typical case, from #! /usr/bin/perl to #! /usr/local/bin/perl. Wouldn't that break most of the 3rd party scripts out in the world? Well-behaved 3rd party scri

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Anton Berezin
On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 10:09:05PM +0100, Oliver Lehmann wrote: > Anton Berezin wrote: > > > In practical terms this will mean a one-time sweep of your scripts in > > order to convert them, in a typical case, from #! /usr/bin/perl to > > #! /usr/local/bin/perl. > > Wouldn't that break most of the

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Steven Hartland
This has a huge external impact. Yes they are easily corrected but unless there is a specific need to remove them my vote would be to not put people though such a potentially painful change. Steve - Original Message - From: "Anton Berezin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In practical terms this wi

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Oliver Lehmann
Anton Berezin wrote: > In practical terms this will mean a one-time sweep of your scripts in > order to convert them, in a typical case, from #! /usr/bin/perl to > #! /usr/local/bin/perl. Wouldn't that break most of the 3rd party scripts out in the world? -- Oliver Lehmann http://www.pofo.de

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 09:24:25PM +0100, Anton Berezin wrote: > Unless I hear too many cries "don't do that" (with justification), I > plan to not create any perl symlinks in /usr/bin in the forthcoming > upgrade of both lang/perl5.8 (to 5.8.6) and lang/perl5 (to 5.6.2). This > will ONLY be true

Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Kirill Ponomarew
On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 09:24:25PM +0100, Anton Berezin wrote: > Unless I hear too many cries "don't do that" (with justification), I > plan to not create any perl symlinks in /usr/bin in the forthcoming > upgrade of both lang/perl5.8 (to 5.8.6) and lang/perl5 (to 5.6.2). This > will ONLY be true

[HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone

2005-01-29 Thread Anton Berezin
Unless I hear too many cries "don't do that" (with justification), I plan to not create any perl symlinks in /usr/bin in the forthcoming upgrade of both lang/perl5.8 (to 5.8.6) and lang/perl5 (to 5.6.2). This will ONLY be true for FreeBSD 5.X and FreeBSD CURRENT; the existing pollution of /usr/bi

Re: Kernel panic on 5.3-STABLE w/ ACPI

2005-01-29 Thread Joan Picanyol i Puig
* Admin @ InterCorner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20050129 20:09]: > I have sent this message before (Wed, 19 Jan 2005 04:11:40 +0100), but > without respons. So I'll try again. You didn't provide enough info to help with ACPI debugging http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859

Kernel panic on 5.3-STABLE w/ ACPI

2005-01-29 Thread Admin @ InterCorner
Hi there! I have sent this message before (Wed, 19 Jan 2005 04:11:40 +0100), but without respons. So I'll try again. --- I have gladly installed FreeBSD5 on my laptop to be free from M$ !! :D And soon I will install it on my worksation aswell. Here is (in my eyes) an unusual boot error. When I s

Re: Linking problems with gcc 3.4.2 and glibc on 5.3-stable

2005-01-29 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Sat, Jan 29, 2005 at 02:45:27AM +, Chris wrote: > I am talking about the psybnc source because its for users on the > server who cannot compile software from ports. If they can't compile from ports, then they certainly won't be able to install it; won't that mean that they won't be able to